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Is it verboten to point out that Whit Weeks was responsible for the 2 long TD runs?

Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:36 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:36 pm
As great as he has been in spots, he bit inside on both plays and didn’t seal the edge.

It could be coaching. It could also be that he didn’t understand the run fits.

We just don’t have gap understanding and/or discipline.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:39 pm to
The safeties actions were more egregious on both td runs.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

The safeties actions were more egregious on both td runs.

They were bad too, but I saw Whit move to the inside when there was no other defender in front of him to seal the outside edge.

He’s got to be able to see that and adjust.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:42 pm
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:45 pm to
He was responsible for sage Ryan totally whiffing on the tackle?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:47 pm to
Gabriel Reliford was responsible for the Rocket Sanders long run. He lost contain on the edge. After that he never played again.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

He was responsible for sage Ryan totally whiffing on the tackle?


On the Sellers TD run and the Sanders TD Run, Sage wasn’t even near the play. You’re thinking of another play.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Gabriel Reliford was responsible for the Rocket Sanders long run. He lost contain on the edge. After that he never played again.


True, but Reliford was in front of Weeks. When Weeks saw Reliford go inside, he’s got to know that he has to redirect to the outside.

If Weeks understood what he was seeing in front of him, he had time to adjust.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:51 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:54 pm to
It’s the DE’s responsibility to force the runner inside. Reliford does that and Rocket gets tackled. He needs to wait until the runner commits to the inside then crash. If the DE crashes to early almost every RB in football is capable of running around the DE and turning it up. Reliford made a mistake.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:57 pm to
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It’s the DE’s responsibility to force the runner inside. Reliford does that and Rocket gets tackled. He needs to wait until the runner commits to the inside then crash. If the DE crashes to early almost every RB in football is capable of running around the DE and turning it up. Reliford made a mistake.


Thanks for that. I agree. It’s just too bad Weeks wasn’t experienced enough to see what Reliford was doing and adjust because he could’ve still made up for it and still made the play.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:58 pm to
The big point is that on those two plays, the issues are fixable. Everybody bit on the movement, that's probably why the safety was out of the play as well. It's not a talent issue, it's not guys that just don't get it. It was a set of mistakes, large mistakes, and we haven't had quite as many as we did last year.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51701 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:03 am to
quote:

The safeties actions were more egregious on both td runs.

Nope. Maybe on the first one. The second one was due to an egregious mistake by Weeks.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78077 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:04 am to
I mean Sellers ran by Penn. Looks like our whole defense shifted with the motion and the RB movements on the option. Whit

I dont know their assignments.

but if Whit fricked up, the. so did penn because he also
moved. he then didn’t make any kind of play and got swallowed up by the guard.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51701 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:05 am to
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It’s the DE’s responsibility to force the runner inside.

You don’t know that. They make defensive calls and reads that determine who is responsible. This isn’t Pop Warner in which everyone has the exact same responsibility on every play.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 12:06 am
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2293 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:06 am to
Young players sometimes make agressive mistakes. Coaching and experience are the best teachers.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:08 am to
quote:

You don’t know that. They make defensive calls and reads that determine who is responsible.


Someone failed to set the edge. Herbstreit even called it out during the game.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:08 am to
quote:

Young players sometimes make agressive mistakes. Coaching and experience are the best teachers.


This is what I’m pointing out. Baker is great but the production from his defense that he can get out of them this year is going to be limited. It sucks, but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 12:11 am
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11455 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:09 am to
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You don’t know that.


You are showing your lack of football knowledge with this post. You may just want to delete it.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:11 am to
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It’s just too bad Weeks wasn’t experienced enough to see what Reliford was doing and adjust because he could’ve still made up for it and still made the play.


I'm not sure prime Ray Lewis could leave his gap responsibility to make that tackle - the busted Reliford contain TD.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 12:13 am
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:18 am to
[quote]I'm not sure prime Ray Lewis could leave his gap responsibility to make that tackle - the busted Reliford contain TD.[/quote

Weeks saw Reliford in front of him working to the inside. He should’ve known that he had to protect the outside. He didnt have to keep working to the inside once he saw that, but he did. At that point it was too late.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 12:20 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:45 am to
quote:

Weeks saw Reliford in front of him working to the inside. He should’ve known that he had to protect the outside. He didnt have to keep working to the inside once he saw that, but he did. At that point it was too late.


I see what you’re saying. After looking at the play again Reliford gets washed inside so early and so quickly the left tackle ignored him and blocked Weeks. As fans we will never know who really missed their responsibility but one thing is certain the edge was not set. Also given the fact that Reliford did not play the rest of the game increases the possibility that maybe Reliford was the one that lost gap discipline on that play.
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