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Worst part about this debate was the fact checking bias.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:06 am
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:06 am
It’s not that Trump did horrible. Did he go off point? Somewhat. Did he stay composed? Somewhat. Did he make any good points? Yes but it wasn’t peak Trump. What pissed me off more than anything was the fact that undecided voters, are undecided because they are uninformed. If they watched the debate, the bias of ABC hurt him. Fact checking him on pets being eaten, climate change, Kamala’s black, j6, Ukraine winning war, nothing benefited him. They never fact check Harris on Charlottesville, 5 guys guilty and a host of other lies that were over the top but weee not called out on. Any undecided voter hears this and not question the validity of her claims hurts Trump.
For the record, pets were eaten and Trump was right.
For the record, pets were eaten and Trump was right.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:10 am to shoelessjoe
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It’s not that Trump did horrible.
Yeah, it is. But I wouldn’t call that a bad thing. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:11 am to shoelessjoe
David was pretty bad with his commentary and interjecting his opinion even cutting off Trump when he asked him to respond.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:13 am to shoelessjoe
When she made the remark about Trump insulting the military, an unbiased moderator would have easily interjected, "but everyone else who was present denied Trump made that claim."
They grilled him like he was the incumbent currently running the country...
They grilled him like he was the incumbent currently running the country...
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 1:14 am
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:15 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Mickey Goldmill
Bet you clapped like a seal whenever Kamabla brought up the “very fine people”, “suckers and losers”, and “January 6 inciting rioters” hoaxes that have been debunked over and over. Strange how the debate moderators didn't set the record straight and fact check her on those.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:16 am to shoelessjoe
I watched the bongino playback
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:19 am to 1loyalbamafan
It was pretty funny. Dan’s fact checking was “that’s bullshite” or “she’s full of shite”
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:21 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Yeah, it is. But I wouldn’t call that a bad thing. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Mickey, I get that you don’t likenTrump because he’s oafish, but what about the last 3.5 years makes you excited? Example, are you supportive of the mass of illegals that are suppressing the wages of American workers? That doesn’t seem consistent with what I’ve seen in your posts.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:22 am to shoelessjoe
Any “undecided” voters who were and are engaged enough to sit through and pay attention to this entire debate, who failed to give due attention to the overt and easily observed bias, more likely than not did so knowingly and intentionally - and were never likely going to genuinely consider voting for Trump anyway. Thus not much net loss.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:24 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:26 am to davyjones
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Thus not much net loss.
Agree with this as for as you went. But Trump missed an opportunity to bury Kamala.
I still think he wins comfortably, but frick - it wouldn’t have been hard to burn that bitch down tonight.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:26 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Mickey Goldmill
You have TDS so bad that it's laughable. Trump's final statement said it all. Kamala talks about all this stuff she is gonna change if elected, but she is the VP and hasn't changed anything for the better in 3 and 1/2 years. Inflation, the cost of living, and the border are now waaaaay worse than they were under Trump and everyone knows this.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 1:36 am
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:05 am to Big EZ Tiger
quote:give me an example of a vice president who changed the policy of his administration, or STFU.
but she is the VP and hasn't changed anything for the better in 3 and 1/2 years.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:09 am to texridder
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give me an example of a vice president who changed the policy of his administration, or STFU.
What Biden policies/initiatives do you think Kamala would not have gone with and what would she have done that Biden didn’t? Aren’t they pretty much the same Leftist.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:15 am to texridder
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give me an example of a vice president who changed the policy of his administration, or STFU
Joe Biden soft called out Obama for not supporting gay marriage.
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The moment that elevated Mr. Biden’s standing among gay and lesbian activists was his appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” as vice president in 2012 when, in response to a question, he said he supported same-sex marriage. His response, which aides said was not calculated or planned, blindsided the White House and Mr. Obama, who had not yet staked out that position.
Given that he was a moderate Democrat with strong ties to blue-collar workers, that response changed the contours of the discussion and, in the view of many activists, emboldened other elected officials to jump on as well. Ms. Hecht-McGowan said she was campaigning in a pitched, and ultimately successful, battle on an initiative permitting same-sex marriage in Maryland.
“He created this watershed moment for the movement,” Ms. Hecht-McGowan said. “I believe that moment was the tipping point for the movement on marriage. He did what he needed to do.”
LINK
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:17 am to shoelessjoe
fricking loved it.
This is the sort of thing we've needed forever. Balance is less important than accuracy.
Not Harris's fault Trump is full of shite.
This is the sort of thing we've needed forever. Balance is less important than accuracy.
Not Harris's fault Trump is full of shite.
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:19 am to Mephistopheles
Care to specify what you’re referring to insofar as Trump being full of shite in this instance? Or is generalization and vagueness ok, no specifics or details necessary, ever?
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:28 am to texridder
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give me an example of a vice president who changed the policy of his administration, or STFU.
Richard Cheney pushed the narrative of "weapons of mass destruction" and the Bush administration essentially died on that hill.
Do you need more examples or have the ones you've been provided been sufficient? Will you continue to play the part of an ignorant, condescending, low information voter who casts a ballot based solely on emotion, or will you cease to be a drain on society and contribute?
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:29 am to cuddlefish
Don’t mind the asymmetrical fact checking. But when the fact checking is actual asymmetrical lying in it’s fact checking, that’s a fricking problem!
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:41 am to shoelessjoe
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Don’t mind the asymmetrical fact checking. But when the fact checking is actual asymmetrical lying in it’s fact checking, that’s a fricking problem!
Uh huh.
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