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Does anyone know the history of LSU scheduling USC?

Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:29 pm
There seems to be much controversy about whether LSU renigged on playing a series with USC. Does anyone know? Also, didn't TT back out this/next year?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:31 pm to
Renniged? Is that some sort of crazy Ebonics shite?
Posted by Jackfish28
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:32 pm to
Why would we ever do that? they would not play us in home and home series
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:34 pm to
ccording to verge ausberry, USC did not agree to a return trip to BR
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:35 pm to

May not have spelled the word right. It's just that I've got some instigators on the ESPN board trying to make LSU look bad but I know we tried to beef up our schedule....just don't know the logistics.

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Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:36 pm to
We did a home and away with them and we won over there, they won at TS- some have said it was one of the loudest TS has been.

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Southern Cal narrowly escaped a similar fate and knows it. And have no doubt, the spectators played a big, big role in the near upset. "Nothing is done at LSU to inhibit the spirit of our fans," says Athletic Director Paul Dietzel . "And they will get cranked up." That's a tradition in Cajun country, where life's main preoccupation seems to be finding new and better ways to keep the good times rolling. Indeed, the sainted Billy Cannon , now an orthodontist, laughs and says, "Great fans. Great. They're with you through everything, win or tie." But he's joking, because nowhere are the rooters as loyal in defeat.

It all makes a body tingle. These folks go berserk when the band marches on the field. A huge roar is heard for the Invocation, for heaven's sake. They not only know the words to the national anthem, they sing them, loudly. And, when the Tigers win the toss—as happened Saturday—there are tears of ecstasy.

To get ready for Death Valley , Robinson rented a crowd-noise tape from Universal Studios and installed a high-powered sound system at his practice field to broadcast the roars during last week's drills. Alas, the first day the system didn't work too well, but Robinson was his usual philosophical self. "That's O.K.," he told the crestfallen technicians, "our team isn't perfect either." Anyway, added Offensive Guard Brad Budde, "great teams aren't intimidated by the crowd." Certainly Budde played as if he couldn't be intimidated by a stadium full of genuine tigers. He put on the kind of performance that has stamped him as the best offensive lineman in the country.



In the first half on Saturday, it seemed as if Southern Cal had forgotten all about both blocking and tackling. The defense, which had given up 81 yards rushing a game, played as if it was scared LSU would complete a long pass, thus it allowed 145 yards, mostly on plays designed to yield short gains. And the offense seemed bewildered by the Tigers' eight-man line. All the Trojans could manage was a 32-yard first-quarter field goal by Eric Hipp following Jeff Fisher 's interception of a David Woodley pass.
Meanwhile, the Tigers, like their fans, were letting it all hang out. After the Trojans' three-pointer, Steve Ensminger, who had replaced Woodley at quarterback, completed a pass to Split End Tracy Porter for 15 yards, and Fullback Jude Hernandez followed that with a 24-yard bolt up the middle. That put the ball on the USC 12. Two plays later Ensminger threw over the center to Tailback LeRoid Jones for an LSU touchdown. A fumbled snap spoiled the conversion attempt, but 10 minutes later, after recovering a USC fumble, the Tigers got to the Trojan 15 before they settled for a 32-yard field goal by Don Barthel. Thus, Southern Cal found itself trailing 9-3 at the half and hard-pressed to find anything to shout about—which at that moment made them unique in Tiger Stadium .

The third quarter was not one of substantial improvement for USC, although the Trojans did mount an opening 68-yard march that got them down to the LSU seven before it fizzled. After a field-goal attempt was off to the right, the Tigers roared right to a first down on the USC two. But a plunge for no gain, a nine-yard loss on a pitchout and an incompletion moved them back to the 11. In came Barthel again for a field goal, up went another three points, and USC was down by nine. However, the Trojan offensive line seemed to have overcome its uncertainty on the USC's second-half opening drive, and there were still 18� minutes to play. Could it be that the Trojans weren't dead, but only lying in the weeds?

This seemed to be the case early in the fourth quarter when USC went 57 yards in six plays, thanks to some nifty passing by McDonald , who completed 14 of 20 against a Tiger defense that had allowed only 15 completions in winning its two previous games. Of course, the Trojan drive included some renditions of that old USC standard: Student Body Right, or 28 Pitch. At the end of this series White followed Budde, Van Home and Foote on three straight plays for 17 yards, the last gain four yards and a touchdown to make it LSU 12, USC 10.

Then, with 5:52 left, USC fumbled again, the Tigers' Alvin Thomas recovering on the Trojan 26, and it looked as if LSU would survive, maybe even prosper.

But an offensive-interference penalty and a delay-of-game call resulted in the Tigers having to punt from their 44. The ball was fair-caught at the USC 21, where Southern Cal went to work with 4:16 remaining. Helped by a face-mask penalty, the Trojans inexorably marched toward the Tiger goal line. The drive culminated with McDonald throwing from the eight, off a rollout, to Kevin Williams , running an out pattern, and USC was in front 17-12. It was Williams ' 33rd reception of his USC career. Sixteen of them have been for touchdowns.

The Tigers had 24 seconds to regain the lead after a 20-yard runback of the kickoff and a holding penalty called on the Trojans spotted the ball on the LSU 42. A 28-yard pass from Ensminger to Robert Delee got the Tigers to the Trojan 30, but Safety Dennis Smith broke up two Ensminger passes in the end zone—and the LSU rooters' hearts.

The defeat was an especially trying one for LSU Coach Charlie McClendon , who at the end of this season—his 18th at Baton Rouge—is being fired as head coach, despite having won 70% of his games. In fact, it was only the return of Dietzel to LSU in the summer of 1978 that enabled McClendon to coach this year. The Board of Supervisors had given him the gate, but Dietzel worked out a plan to give his old friend one more season. Last year the signs around campus read "Help Mac Pack." But last week, what with the Tigers' start in which they had averaged 45.5 points a game, the sloganeers were testing a new one: "Bring Mac Back."

It was a finish that left everyone emotionally drained. It also left White in awe—again—of his offensive linemen. "I love 'em all," he said. "Everything seems to depend on them." Added Van Home, "When Charlie gets 185 yards, I know I had a good day." Which is not the same thing as a good night for the denizens of Tiger Stadium .



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Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:37 pm to
i dont think there is a worse message board in the country than ESPN
This post was edited on 1/1/09 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:38 pm to
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According to verge ausberry, USC did not agree to a return trip to BR
Yeah, that would be consistent with THEIR OOC scheduling eh?
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:41 pm to
we'll get to see this match up next year in the BCS title game!


Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 1/1/09 at 10:48 pm to
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i dont think there is a worse message board in the country than ESPN


I have to agree with you but I go b/c I like reading the opinions of all the other peeps (their schools and conferences). Sometimes they piss me off!
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:49 am to
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to verge ausberry, USC did not agree to a return trip to BR


Acc'd to PC there was no real attempt to schedule. USC plays home and away series year in and out with top teams. Obviously, they would dothe same wthLSU. LSU, on the oter hand, has not shown it is willing to play seriescnsistently.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:50 am to
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Yeah, that would be consistent with THEIR OOC scheduling eh?


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Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:35 pm to
They have only played twice, LSU has tryed a few times in the last couple of years to schedule USC and they have turned down every offer.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:50 pm to
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Acc'd to PC there was no real attempt to schedule.
On whose part? Verge says there was, Carroll says there wasn't. They may both be telling the truth. Sounds like everyone agrees that LSU tried; USC didn't. Take it FWIW. Anyway you cut it, USC never TRIED to schedule with LSU.
Posted by Port City
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 1:42 pm to
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Acc'd to PC there was no real attempt to schedule. USC plays home and away series year in and out with top teams. Obviously, they would dothe same wthLSU. LSU, on the oter hand, has not shown it is willing to play seriescnsistently.


We may not be at the same OOC level (in terms of quality) as USC, but we do hold our own.


In the next decade we have home and homes with Washington, WVU, TCU, Arizona State, and Oklahoma.

But in response to the OP, unless there is a contract signed I think all the talk of one team backing out is BS. We will never actually know what ADs are talking about and I think they all just tell their fan bases what they want to hear.
Posted by theloff
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 1:50 pm to
We played them at home during the 1979 season and went there in 1980. After that we just went on to other things. Just like Texas played the Ohio state in a home and away recently.
Nothing sinister about it.
LSU was not good for about 20 years so there would have been no point in USC playing us.
Posted by THATLSUBOY
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 1:56 pm to
WE want 2 play them, but they don't want to play us!!!
They don't want any part of us!!!
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 2:00 pm to
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They don't want any part of us!!!


I dont know about that. USC seems willing to play anyone else.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 2:02 pm to
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They don't want any part of us!!!


Look, I hate USC as much as anyone, but I think it's crazy to suggest they are backing down or afraid. There are probably many reasons why this game is not scheduled, the least of which is either side is "afraid" of the other.

USC, love them or hate them (again I HATE them) does not have a history of backing down in the OOC scheduling department.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 2:06 pm to
Actually LSU avenged the 1979 17-12 loss, by winning 23-3 in their home-and-home trip to the LA Coliseum in 1984.
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