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Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:18 am
Texas' economy seems to be pumping and the envy of just about every other state right now.

I'm the furthest thing from a renowned economist and I barely passed intro to Macroeconomics in college, but why are we supposed to believe that immigration from Central America will destroy America's economy again? I'm seriously asking.




This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85370 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:19 am to
did you copy the wrong image?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8043 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:20 am to
^^^Definitely
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:22 am to
Nobody complains about immigration, it's illegal immigration people are up in arms about.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17480 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:22 am to
It won’t.

They are a blessing.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34212 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Texas


This may be surprising to you but Texas was once part of Spain then became a part of Mexico. Hence the high percentage of the population being Hispanic/Lation origin and a good number of them are against illegal immigration.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17480 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:23 am to
It will will in fact destroy lazy people.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13314 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:30 am to
First, not all Hispanics are illegal.
Second, most of the illegals prefer sanctuary states. Admittedly. Downtown Dallas, Austin, Houston PD and probably all of San Antonio are de facto sanctuary jurisdictions, but drive 15 miles out of downtown, that isn’t likely to be the case.
Third, most of the illegals that do remain in Texas tend to work the same way most of them do in Atlanta (think Buford highway, Gwinnett, etc.)

Illegals from the northern triangle are not working at Chevron, Oxy, the medical center, or at the financial services joints in DFW, etc, which is where the money comes from to support the costs they incur. $1 Billion
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39869 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:33 am to
people complain about illegals until it is time to hire roofers, painters, and many mindless trades.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8043 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

people complain about illegals until it is time to hire roofers, painters, and many mindless trades.


Apparently mass deportation would cripple the hotel and restaurant industry in larger cities. I don't know because I don't live there, but it seemed sort of interesting.
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
869 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:39 am to
worth stating again

quote:

This may be surprising to you but Texas was once part of Spain then became a part of Mexico. Hence the high percentage of the population being Hispanic/Lation origin and a good number of them are against illegal immigration.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13314 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:42 am to
Native Hispanics really, really do not like illegals. Most of our border patrol are Latino, and abuela will totally drop a dime on an illegal group crossing over her land.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9527 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:43 am to
quote:

people complain about illegals until it is time to hire roofers, painters, and many mindless trades.


I dont, because id rather pay more for a roof so that my children inherit an actual country and not a decaying fricking empire with serfs that cant even speak the language.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39869 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I dont, because id rather pay more for a roof so that my children inherit an actual country and not a decaying fricking empire with serfs that cant even speak the language.



at what point in American history have we ever opted to pay more vs importing cheap labor?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:47 am to
If we're all honest, we'll all agree that without south of the border immigrants (for many decade now), our economy driven by the lowest wage workers available (and willing) in the lowest desirable positions would be problematic. Removing this population today by a wave of a wand would grind so much of our daily life to a screeching halt it's scary.

My opinion for years and years here is that it's always been by design by both politicians and the business community. They're all in the same gang, so, by design, one group takes on the blame for it while the other campaigns on economic prosperity and growth.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
23745 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:50 am to
quote:

why are we supposed to believe that immigration from Central America will destroy America's economy again?



Well, a few things. 1) take a look at the economy and environment they are coming from. Does it scream success to you?

2) anytime there is a shadow economy and labor force (like there is due to illegal immigration) it suppresses the growth of the middle class and hinders wealth creation.

3) a lot of todays illegal immigration isn’t like the immigration that drives Texas’ economy to the current envious position - hence Texas shipping out the illegals as fast as we can.


Now I know you were trolling and not looking for a real answer, but maybe stew on these points a bit.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8043 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Now I know you were trolling and not looking for a real answer, but maybe stew on these points a bit.



You are clearly not a mind reader and give yourself way too much credit for your ability to do so.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15171 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:02 am to
You need to get a job
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83092 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:06 am to
The economy is wholly irrelevant as to illegal immigration. Every country must have defined borders. Every country in history until now felt obliged and obligated to defend its borders from any invasion. It’s a very recent thing for anyone to consider their own country’s border “racist” or even justify having no border.
Posted by Hand
far side of the moon
Member since Dec 2007
2089 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:08 am to
Texas' economy is booming because of the goods coming across the boarder not the people. Supply chains are relocating from Asia to Mexico. Mexico has favorable demographics and low-end skills. The US has not-horrible demographics and high-end skills. It will be mutually beneficial for both countries. Texas is reaping the benefit from that because of the co-location of re-shored manufacturing.

The ILLEGAL crossings don't pay FEDERAL taxes because FEDERAL taxes are paid on income. They don't pay the taxes that are used to pay for the majority of services that they receive. It is a drain. TEXAS has the right idea because of their consumption and property based taxes. It doesn't matter if they are ILLEGAL or not because they pay their share through their consumption or their rent (whose landlord pays property taxes).
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