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NASA decision watch: abandon Starliner, use SpaceX in Feb

Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24318 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:04 am
NASA will be announcing the fate of Starliner at a 1:00pm EST press conference today. We will find out if they are headed back on Starliner or if they will ditch the bird and bring them home on SpaceX Dragon.

Get your predictions in now…..

I don’t think NASA wants that many people (all currently on plus the Dragon crew flying up) on ISS until February, so I’m guessing they come back on Starliner later this week

Link to commentary and then presser - LINK

This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2586 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:18 am to


everyone knows the answer already, Boeing just wanted to do it outside of market hours
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
723 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:19 am to
It’s a tough pill to swallow but taking the risk and losing Starliner and its crew in re-entry is something NASA and, more so, Boeing can’t let happen especially when they have a proven life boat already (Dragon).
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 9:20 am
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26052 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:22 am to
i expect them to bend the knee the musk
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82777 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

risk and losing Starliner and its crew in re-entry is something NASA and, more so, Boeing can’t let happen


Would 100% end Boeing's space division.

Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
538 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:25 am to
There is no way anyone at NASA will accept the risk for sending them back on a boeing capsule as long as there is a spaceex alternative.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24318 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:33 am to
quote:


Would 100% end Boeing's space division.


letting the one they have stuck right now float off into space would likely do that as well
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82777 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:35 am to
quote:

letting the one they have stuck right now float off into space would likely do that as well


Nah, its the maiden voyage.

Space X has crashed tons of rockets in the spirit of designing. Boeing hasn't crashed any yet, but doing so with people on board would be a terrible look.

Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24318 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Boeing hasn't crashed any yet


ugh, yes they have. First, they are like 5 years late. Second, their maden flight blew up in space, their 2nd one made it to ISS but had major issues.

SpaceX never had crew in jeopardy lol
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23158 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Space X has crashed tons of rockets in the spirit of designing. Boeing hasn't crashed any yet, but doing so with people on board would be a terrible look.



Wow, you know nothing of the current space industry.

Might want to fact check yourself.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7465 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Boeing hasn't crashed any yet,


Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82777 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:45 am to
quote:

First, they are like 5 years late.


Irrelevant to what we are discussing... they are cost plus contractors, so they aren't losing money on this deal. A crash involving people would end that contract quickly.

quote:

Second, their maden flight blew up in space, their 2nd one made it to ISS but had major issues.



I've never seen that... Thought there were two orbital missions prior to this one and both returned, although with problems



Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82777 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:47 am to
Just looked up...

Boe-PAT
(patch) S1 4 November 2019,
14:15:00 4 November 2019,
14:16:19 Pad abort test at White Sands. Only two of three parachutes opened, but was declared a success. — Success
Boe-OFT
(patch) S3.1
Calypso 19 December 2019,
11:36:43 22 December 2019,
12:58:53 First uncrewed orbital flight test. Orbited but failed to rendezvous with ISS. Landed successfully. — Partial failure
Boe-OFT-2
(patch) S2.1 19 May 2022,
22:54:47 25 May 2022,
22:49 Second uncrewed orbital flight test. Successfully docked to ISS. — Success
Boe-CFT
(patch) S3.2 ?
Calypso 5 June 2024,
14:52:15 TBD Crewed flight test to ISS.
United States Barry E. Wilmore
United States Sunita Williams
Docked to ISS
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82777 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Might want to fact check yourself.


Just posted the 4 flights of the starliner below



and for the record, I despise boeing and their cost-plus contract
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16792 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:59 am to
It’s amazing to think how far the Apollo 13 NASA has fallen to be this inept to where we don’t have a contingency plan for this.

Every agency if our government is being run by clowns.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24318 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:25 am to
quote:

It’s amazing to think how far the Apollo 13 NASA has fallen to be this inept to where we don’t have a contingency plan for this.


they solved so much shite on the fly to get those guys home. Absolutely insane. Been like 80 days and they havent solved shite on this one
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:33 am to
quote:

they solved so much shite on the fly to get those guys home. Absolutely insane. Been like 80 days and they havent solved shite on this one


They had the benefit of an room full of sassy black ladies.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66030 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:35 am to
There isn't a chance in hell I get back in that piece of shite
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
52938 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:36 am to
Sepuku on the space station
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24318 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:43 am to
quote:

There isn't a chance in hell I get back in that piece of shite



Added a link to preshow and presser in OP
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