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Speaker Johnson had the power to stop all the lawfare in NYC.

Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:18 pm
Now they all want to act outraged? They all knew this was happening and let it happen.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Speaker Johnson had the power to stop all the lawfare in NYC.


Do tell! What power should he have wielded?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:21 pm to
He could close the DOJ?

Grow up and think.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Do tell! What power should he have wielded?


I think this is where he suggests that Johnson has the ability to convince 7 of the 10 Republican House Members and every other GOP house member to vote to stop all federal funding to New York.

5 Months before those 10 GPP House members face election from New York voters.

This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:23 pm to
Johnson lost all hope after passing the funding bill and sending money to Ukraine. He is a huge disappointment.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:34 pm to
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I think this is where he suggests that Johnson has the ability to convince 7 of the 10 Republican House Members and every other GOP house member to vote to stop all federal funding to New York.

5 Months before those 10 GPP House members face election from New York voters.

He's the Speaker, he had things available to him that did not require him to persuade these members from NY.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:37 pm to
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I think this is where he suggests that Johnson has the ability to convince 7 of the 10 Republican House Members and every other GOP house member to vote to stop all federal funding to New York.

5 Months before those 10 GPP House members face election from New York voters.


Votes had nothing to do with it. He had the power to not bring the mini omnibus bill to the floor. The GOPe was so terrified of shutting down the government they would have agreed to some carve outs defunding this sham.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:37 pm to
Like what?
Posted by EarnYourStripes
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:38 pm to
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he had things available to him


I'm not challenging you here - I ask honestly because I don't know... what are the things?

I hate that he's from Louisiana, given a huge stage to be a hero for the America First folks, and here we are. It's really disappointing. He's not even worthy of standing in the shadow of our founding fathers.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Speaker Johnson had the power to stop all the lawfare in NYC.


What is this magical power you speak of? How, exactly, would it have worked?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:43 pm to
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He's the Speaker, he had things available to him that did not require him to persuade these members from NY.


Nope.

Speaker of the house is a position in the legislative branch, not the executive. While he has some power to set House rules, he can't do anything that impacts anyone outside the house of representatives without a majority vote.

Right now there are 217 Republicans and 213 Democrats in the house. that means the GOP can only lose 3 members of their caucus and still be able to win a majority vote. That's assuming they just don't vote. If they actively vote the other way, they can only lose 1.

There are 10 GOP house members from New York. The only way the Speaker can do ANYTHING related to NY is to have the support of 7 of those 10 Reps.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:47 pm to
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What is this magical power you speak of? How, exactly, would it have worked?


He had the power to not bring the mini omnibus bill to the floor.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Speaker Johnson had the power to stop all the lawfare in NYC.

How?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
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He had the power to not bring the mini omnibus bill to the floor.

How would that have stopped a state prosecution?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Johnson lost all hope after passing the funding bill and sending money to Ukraine. He is a huge disappointment


Agreed. Hard for me to get past that one. Same feeling regarding Trump supporting that NOT America first shite.

Honestly, RFK talks more about the actual issues and solutions, rather than the same ole shite from Dems and Republicans.
"Trump bad" vs "Biden bad" ALL of this shite is really old.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7591 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Votes had nothing to do with it. He had the power to not bring the mini omnibus bill to the floor. The GOPe was so terrified of shutting down the government they would have agreed to some carve outs defunding this sham.


If he did that, he'd probably cost the GOP control of the house.

But you're right that he could do that. Shutting down the government on the eve of an election is something he could do. But I think you're underestimating the impact that would have come election day.

There's a reason neither side tries to force a government shutdown anywhere near election day. Every shutdown that lasted more than 3 days happened in an odd numbered year (meaning no house elections that year).

It also wouldn't target NY more than any other state.
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:52 pm to
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He's the Speaker, he had things available to him that did not require him to persuade these members from NY.


Such as what?
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Johnson lost all hope after passing the funding bill and sending money to Ukraine. He is a huge disappointment.


100%, but I wonder which agency captured him and how long ago.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39367 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 1:14 pm to
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It also wouldn't target NY more than any other state.


He could have specifically targeted the DOJ and NY or anything enabling this sham.

Basically tell Hochul you are not getting any federal money until to rein in your AG and DA's.

No different than telling Louisiana to raise the drinking age or you get no money.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13542 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 1:18 pm to
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He had the power to not bring the mini omnibus bill to the floor.


And that would have done what?
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