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Was the ninth inning delay about Brown leaving early from second?

Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Rich539
Member since Feb 2024
174 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:02 pm
Anyone know if he did? He sure got to third quick.

I believe USCe did appeal to second; however, umpire said safe. Anyone in stands to confirm?

If Brown did leave early, game would have ended with Kling’s run not counting… that would have been a killer way to loose.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21561 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:05 pm to
I was there and didn’t think he left early. Glad to get that win!
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64468 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

If Brown did leave early, game would have ended with Kling’s run not counting… that would have been a killer way to loose.


Not true. The appeal would not take the run off the board since it was not Kling who was being appealed. If Brown was out, we would have gone to the bottom of the 9th in a 10-10 game. The third out would have been made after Kling scored, and a player being doubled off is not considered a "force out" that would take away a run.

The SC coach wanted a review but Jay won the argument that it was they waited too long to ask for the review.
Posted by 76bmrlsu
Member since Aug 2016
425 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:12 pm to
I’m not polished on this rule so correct me if I’m wrong but why wouldn’t klings run have counted? Brown wasn’t a forced out and kling scored before they even checked brown at 2nd. The ball was thrown into the 3rd baseman and then they checked (or tried to check?) at 2nd. I believe the run would have counted but the inning would have ended for LSU
Posted by Pistol 23
Member since Feb 2007
606 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:22 pm to
Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering if Kling's run would count if they reviewed and determined Brown left early.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9010 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:24 pm to
A few things.

1. It’s technically not a force out because the runner is only out IF there is an appeal and the bag is touched with a player holding the ball. The run would have scored and counted even if there had been an appeal and he left early from 2nd.

2. The reason there couldn’t be a review is because SC never appealed to second base to make the umpire make a call one way or the other. Instead the pitcher took the ball and got back on the rubber making it too late to appeal. Since they didn’t appeal and step on second base with the ball, there is nothing to review.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47799 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 3:50 am to
quote:

Since they didn’t appeal and step on second base with the ball, there is nothing to review.

now there are the words that settle the matter -
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
4508 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:13 am to
Guessing they didn’t show it on TV but USCe actually did appeal to 2nd. The pitcher was pointing to 2nd and whoever had the ball eventually threw it to 2nd. Ump ruled him safe.
Posted by CWilken21
Gnawlins
Member since Mar 2005
4117 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:35 am to
Tag ups are not force outs. They're called timing plays. Any runs scored before an out is made for not tagging up would count.

Rule 8-2-6 section 8
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1422 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:37 am to
Much is gracias ellesuu!
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11072 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:40 am to
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If Brown did leave early, game would have ended with Kling’s run not counting… that would have been a killer way to loose.

You seem disappointed.
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Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
1997 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:42 am to
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He sure got to third quick.


He made it quick because he was running hard in case they threw to 3rd. Kling jogged home because he knew there wouldn’t be a play. That’s why it looked like that on TV
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26289 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 6:49 am to
Lose
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9010 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Guessing they didn’t show it on TV but USCe actually did appeal to 2nd. The pitcher was pointing to 2nd and whoever had the ball eventually threw it to 2nd. Ump ruled him safe.


Yeah, they never showed that on TV. Must have been too late. I’m assuming once the pitcher is on the rubber and the batter is in the play is over and it can’t be appealed at that point. Interesting situation, Jay was definitely fired up.
Posted by CovingtonTiger
Covington, LA
Member since Oct 2007
560 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 2:04 pm to
I think Brown seemed to get to third quickly for a couple of reasons. 1. He is fast and was running full speed expecting a strong throw. 2. The fly ball was so deep that, instead of being able to catch it with his momentum going toward third base, the left fielder was falling away against the fence. Consequently, he had to gather himself, set his feet, and then throw without really being able to put his body behind it. All in all, I think the left fielder did a good job in getting it in, but all of these things took extra time so it created sort of an optical illusion that Brown got to the bag quicker than normal.
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