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Question for judges and attorneys...Where does your morality (if any) come into play ?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:50 pm
Where do you draw the line in pursuing a conviction or defending a criminal?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:51 pm to loogaroo
They don’t have any. Neither do lawyers. They’re all narcissistic pieces of garbage that like to stroke their own egos
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:52 pm to loogaroo
Judges have to judge based on the law, not their morality.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:52 pm to SixthAndBarone
. Dumb as usual.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:54 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Judges have to judge based on the law
A lot of them don’t even do that. They rule based on democrat or progressive agenda in pretty much every big city and federal court in this country
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:10 pm to loogaroo
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Where do you draw the line in pursuing a conviction or defending a criminal?
I don't represent people accused of sex crimes, for various reasons. It's just shitty all around with a lot of terrible people and judicial/prosecutorial abuse at the same time.
Otherwise, morality doesn't come into play, really. It's a system that Western society is built on, built on rules and evidence. Most of all, it's a service/job.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:13 pm to loogaroo
Lately, local judges ethics follow the color of their skin.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:15 pm to loogaroo
Judge are politicians and almost uniformly worship the government apparatus that provides them a comfortable lifestyle. They're whores for increased state control and decreased individual liberty. For some, having legitimate power and being elevated to the upper crust of political society is more intoxicating than any drug. We call it "robe-itis" down here. They're much more dangerous to this country than a man like Trump.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Otherwise, morality doesn't come into play, really.
And yet. You bury yourself further by lies.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:16 pm to chili pup
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And yet. You bury yourself further by lies.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
I dealt in contracts and corporate end. If I ever had a criminal situation that was particularly egregious....and I've had a limited few. I back out and recommend they get a criminal Ace. Now for things that are fines, etc I would negotiate with the government on it directly. It always was an intellectual challenge. Especially in the Securities space
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:20 pm to KiwiHead
I do a lot of divorces, too, but my whole schtick is to decrease the emotional component in the divorce/custody process, to the chagrin of the divorce industry that promotes the emotional-irrational.
Morality doesn't really come into play there, either.
Morality doesn't really come into play there, either.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:21 pm to loogaroo
There is no such thing as a moral
Judge or attorney. Court is all BS!
Judge or attorney. Court is all BS!
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:28 pm to loogaroo
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Where do you draw the line in pursuing a conviction or defending a criminal?
It's the job of a prosecutor to pursue a conviction and the job of a defense attorney or a public defender to defend their client. There are some people who chose not to do any criminal defense work (whether as a prosecutor or as a defense attorney), and that is their choice.
In either case, the rules of professional conduct (specifically Rule 1.3) require zealous representation by every attorney of his client, and the Constitution minimally requires effective assistance of counsel.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:35 pm to loogaroo
While I am not a criminal attorney I try to never let my personal morality impact my zealous representation of my clients. I tend to park my morality at the door, but I do not and may not park ethics. Two completely different things.
After conflict checks we do vote on taking on new clients, morality is part of that vote for me but if they become clients I have to do the very best I can to prevent my personal feelings, morality included, from reducing my effectiveness representing them.
After conflict checks we do vote on taking on new clients, morality is part of that vote for me but if they become clients I have to do the very best I can to prevent my personal feelings, morality included, from reducing my effectiveness representing them.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yours or theirs?
Morality doesn't really come into play there, either.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And yet. You bury yourself further by lies
Chill off dude. You post a half a million times here says something is up with you already. Who the hell can almost post post a half million times here. Who has the time for it.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:43 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Very good point.
park my morality at the door, but I do not and may not park ethics
Your nuance maybe lost on nonlawyers here.
Could you explain with examples?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:26 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Judges have to judge based on the law, not their morality.
That's complete bullshite.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Otherwise, morality doesn't come into play, really. It's a system that Western society is built on, built on rules and evidence. Most of all, it's a service/job.
Huh?
Whatever you tell yourself to let you sleep at night.
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