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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:21 am
Posted by PANTHER
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:21 am
It is on CBS-C right now just wondering if Paul Johnson would be hire as head coach at LSU what would you think. I am not suggesting Les be fired, this is just hypothetical would this be an accepted offense at a top 5 program in the country.
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Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:21 am to
He supports a gimmick offense. Not a fan.
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:25 am to
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He supports a gimmick offense. Not a fan.



Posted by Geauxlden Boy
Earth
Member since Dec 2008
142 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:27 am to
You do realize that this offense is one of the classic football offenses, right? There's nothing gimmicky about it. If it is executed correctly, it is very successful, if not, it can be shutdown completely. Just like every other offense.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:31 am to
One of the rare times I can actually say I really Laughed Out Loud when I read that....
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72262 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:34 am to
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Just like every other offense.


What's so damn special about it, then?
Posted by mbrous8
Parts unknown
Member since Jan 2008
393 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:42 am to
Very few people use it.
Thats what is special. You don't see it every week and as soon as the spread offense becomes the standard (which is happening quickly) it too will be defensed better.

Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:47 am to
Little lesson for you. Do you honestly think schools like the Naval Academy are better than teams like Notre Dame? Navy gets recruits on par with average DI-AA schools. How do they play up so well? Their offense is a clock management scheme that also wears down the defense, rarely turns the ball over, and requires discipline to stop. You people who think we will roll GT are gonna cry during the game.
Posted by Geauxlden Boy
Earth
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:50 am to
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What's so damn special about it, then?



It's not used very much, so coaches have less previous material and knowledge to base their defenses on, and the personnel that today's defenses use doesn't match up well with it. That said, you will see defenses in the ACC start to figure it out over the next few years. The schools that play GT every year.
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:51 am to
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That said, you will see defenses in the ACC start to figure it out over the next few years. The schools that play GT every year.


I think it balances out because while they may get more accustomed to it, GT will recruit better players for the system.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:59 am to
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I think it balances out because while they may get more accustomed to it, GT will recruit better players for the system.

I disagree. It was "new and exciting" when he was doing it at Navy *cough cough wishbone cough* and it was dealt with quickly. GT won't attract a higher caliber athlete than what they already do. This is just one of their years to shine.
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:07 am to
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I disagree. It was "new and exciting" when he was doing it at Navy *cough cough wishbone cough* and it was dealt with quickly. GT won't attract a higher caliber athlete than what they already do. This is just one of their years to shine.


Yeah because PJ didn't win any less than 8 games a year since 2003 between Navy and GT and break a 44 year losing streak. I guess it was dealt with quickly.
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:11 am to
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It's not used very much, so coaches have less previous material and knowledge to base their defenses on, and the personnel that today's defenses use doesn't match up well with it. That said, you will see defenses in the ACC start to figure it out over the next few years. The schools that play GT every year.


I agree. For the bowl game, we will have a month to get ready for it. And we definitely have players that can run this in the scout team, hell our real team
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7777 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:14 am to
By teams that really mattered, yes, it was. You keep believing that it's better than sliced bread. PJ will be selling his snake oil to a sub-ACC team here in a few years. I'd put money on it...
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:16 am to
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By teams that really mattered, yes, it was. You keep believing that it's better than sliced bread. PJ will be selling his snake oil to a sub-ACC team here in a few years. I'd put money on it...



Keep on thinking that our defense will magically be awesome against a well disciplined team while they are still being coached by the same guys who let other teams put up 50+ on us twice.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7777 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:19 am to
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Keep on thinking that our defense will magically be awesome against a well disciplined team while they are still being coached by the same guys who let other teams put up 50+ on us twice.

wtf? Now we're discussing LSU's D?
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:22 am to
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wtf? Now we're discussing LSU's D?


Well Milehigh said we will shut them down in the bowl game, so I guess we are.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:28 am to
I won't respond to the Paul Johnson replacing Les Miles part of the question, but I will say that I'd be suspect of an offense that basically ignores the passing game. Sure, it's worked for Navy and it worked pretty well for Tech this season, but in a league with defenses as fast as the SEC, allowing them to key in 95% on the run doesn't sound like a recipe for success. Also, I'm assuming this kind of offense would not appeal to a lot of talented QBs and WRs, sort of limiting our recruiting options.
Posted by wilder
Member since Feb 2008
4038 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:32 am to
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but in a league with defenses as fast as the SEC


They beat UGA at home but thats besides the point.

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but I will say that I'd be suspect of an offense that basically ignores the passing game.


Still had 1100 yards passing in a run oriented offense. The thing about the passing game is they only use it sparingly because when they do use it you aren't expecting it.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7777 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 11:35 am to
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Still had 1100 yards passing



JL almost had 1900 yds passing. I guess that's impressive in your books?
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