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re: Jokic MVP
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:25 pm to TigerLifer18
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:25 pm to TigerLifer18
Crazy stat
NBA University
@NBA_University
Driving in the half court and creating buckets for yourself is crucial to winning basketball. These 50 guys drive in the half court to get a bucket most often…
> Drives to score A LOT
^ Efficient Scoring on Drives
SGA is off the charts
NBA University
@NBA_University
Driving in the half court and creating buckets for yourself is crucial to winning basketball. These 50 guys drive in the half court to get a bucket most often…
> Drives to score A LOT
^ Efficient Scoring on Drives
SGA is off the charts
quote:
Theoretically the further right on this chart (volume) the harder it would be to be higher up (efficient)
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:27 pm to OU Guy
Luka has won 50 games once in 6 seasons.
Beard has won 50 games 10 of 11 seasons.
Congrats to Luka on a top 3 finish that is a great achievement.
Beard has won 50 games 10 of 11 seasons.
Congrats to Luka on a top 3 finish that is a great achievement.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:27 pm to OU Guy
quote:
We can cut the Harden comparisons
Nah. I just watched 4 games of him foul hunting against the Pels. Foul merchants don't get mvps
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:29 pm to whatiknowsofar
By the way, I have no issues with Jokic getting it. 3-4 players were in the hunt and he has more notoriety and titles which go a long ways.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:37 pm to OU Guy
Jokic:
26.4 PPG
12.4 REB (4th in the league)
9.0 AST (3rd in the league)
58.3% FG | 35.9% 3PT | 81.7% FT
Do you really think SGA’s on paper counting stats are that much better than Jokic’s? That’s not even getting into advanced stats.
26.4 PPG
12.4 REB (4th in the league)
9.0 AST (3rd in the league)
58.3% FG | 35.9% 3PT | 81.7% FT
Do you really think SGA’s on paper counting stats are that much better than Jokic’s? That’s not even getting into advanced stats.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:38 pm to Epic Cajun
Well:
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander NBA total ranks 2023-2024
Points: #2
Steals: #1
Deflections: #2
Contested 3s: #5
Estimated Plus/Minus: #1
Estimated Wins: #1
30 point games: #1
Blocks by a guard: #5
TS% by a guard: #2
Fewest turnovers by a top 10 scorer.
Led the youngest team in NBA history to clinch the #1 seed.
OKC record with SGA: 55-20.
30.1 PTS/5.5 REB/6.2 AST/2 STL
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander NBA total ranks 2023-2024
Points: #2
Steals: #1
Deflections: #2
Contested 3s: #5
Estimated Plus/Minus: #1
Estimated Wins: #1
30 point games: #1
Blocks by a guard: #5
TS% by a guard: #2
Fewest turnovers by a top 10 scorer.
Led the youngest team in NBA history to clinch the #1 seed.
OKC record with SGA: 55-20.
30.1 PTS/5.5 REB/6.2 AST/2 STL
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:42 pm to OU Guy
SGA was 5th last year. 2nd this year but close to Jokic.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:45 pm to OU Guy
Sabonis is good but that voter needs their vote taken away
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:49 pm to OU Guy
Jokic:
1st in VORP
1st in Offensive Win Shares
2nd in Defensive Win Shares
1st in Total Win Shares
1st in Win Shares per 48
1st in Offensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Defensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Overall Box Plus/Minus
1st in VORP
1st in Offensive Win Shares
2nd in Defensive Win Shares
1st in Total Win Shares
1st in Win Shares per 48
1st in Offensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Defensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Overall Box Plus/Minus
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:00 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
Jokic:
1st in VORP
1st in Offensive Win Shares
2nd in Defensive Win Shares
1st in Total Win Shares
1st in Win Shares per 48
1st in Offensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Defensive Box Plus/Minus
1st in Overall Box Plus/Minus
He earned it. But I would add Denver was projected to finish as #1 seed and finished 2. OKC was projected way lower and finished 1. With youngest team in history to do so. Younger than some college teams. And SGA led them to that success. So had it gone to SGA, I would say earned. Jokic is on a more veteran team and has a lot of credibility in titles and name recognition to help his case.
They both did great bit you can look at what SGA did for his team and have a legit argument.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:40 pm to OU Guy
Another crazy stat
StatMamba
@StatMamba
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is the first player since 1967 to average 30+ PPG on the number one seed in the West and NOT win MVP
StatMamba
@StatMamba
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is the first player since 1967 to average 30+ PPG on the number one seed in the West and NOT win MVP
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:55 pm to OU Guy
They didn’t get the one seed til the last game of the season. Voters minds were made up by then. If they won the conference by a few games it would’ve changed things.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:05 pm to 21JumpStreet
quote:
His last one imo
Hate to say it but you’re right, fatigue will set in from now on
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Nope. The Jim Harden style of play is frowned upon when it comes to MVP
He's Harden 2.0 glad someone said it.
They 100% got this right though Jokic was your easy winner.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:58 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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A family man first and NBA superstar second. We are lucky to have him in Denver.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:04 pm to whatiknowsofar
Shaq was just rude....
He actually told the MVP ( by a wide margin mind you) that he shouldn't have won it.
I tell you there's some crazy jealous thing going on right now in now basketball.
WNBA just got charter flights because of Caitlin Clark and yet vets continue to dump on her.
He actually told the MVP ( by a wide margin mind you) that he shouldn't have won it.
I tell you there's some crazy jealous thing going on right now in now basketball.
WNBA just got charter flights because of Caitlin Clark and yet vets continue to dump on her.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:40 pm to Frac the world
Especially if they don’t make it out the 2nd round. Voters will move on to the next best thing.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:02 pm to OU Guy
quote:
OU Guy
Bro are you related to SGA or something, give it a break. Dude is terrible to watch play with his constantly looking to be fouled. Jokic plays exciting basketball, not trying to get into a free throw contest, and so he crushes the advanced stats.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:42 pm to Fus0623
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Bruh Shaq is a generational Jokic hater. My goodness that man is in pain right now
He's insecure. Most people have him as a top 10 player of all time, but he's still incredibly insecure regarding his legacy. Jokic just won his 3rd MVP as a big man. Shaq is salty because he knows he only won 1 MVP in his career. He doesn't want another big man to have a better legacy than him.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:54 pm to lionward2014
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Bro are you related to SGA or something, give it a break. Dude is terrible to watch play with his constantly looking to be fouled. Jokic plays exciting basketball, not trying to get into a free throw contest, and so he crushes the advanced stats.
Says Pelicans fan who got swept 0-4 by SGA lol. Bitter fan
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