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Saban hung up his whistle because of this new landscape
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:28 am
LSU did all the right things. Facilities, staff, gameday experience, NFL development. Everything that shoudl be important to a player is here. Add in a chance to play for championships.
This move by OU will bite them in the butt, but this is kinda what desperate programs do. OU will not sustain this type of cash but make no mistake there will be a new desperate hopeful program every year.
If a situation can run off one of the best coaches to ever coach, who built one of if not the best programs in recent CFB history, no one else can sustain it either.
Young good coaches will bolt for the NFL, older coaches will fade off into the sunset. All that will remain are middle of the road middle aged coaches who cant go anywhere else. The entire sport will suffer.
There is simply no way to pay players their asking price, maintain team loyalty and program support and keep getting blackmailed. CFB will suffer greatly because of this.
This move by OU will bite them in the butt, but this is kinda what desperate programs do. OU will not sustain this type of cash but make no mistake there will be a new desperate hopeful program every year.
If a situation can run off one of the best coaches to ever coach, who built one of if not the best programs in recent CFB history, no one else can sustain it either.
Young good coaches will bolt for the NFL, older coaches will fade off into the sunset. All that will remain are middle of the road middle aged coaches who cant go anywhere else. The entire sport will suffer.
There is simply no way to pay players their asking price, maintain team loyalty and program support and keep getting blackmailed. CFB will suffer greatly because of this.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:32 am to tigerfoot
Sad to say but we are watching a sport die before our very eyes because of money
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:38 am to Lark225
I truly think the NFL needs to have minor leagues like baseball. Let kids go that way via a HS draft and get paid and do their thing But those of us who enjoy seeing players come up, develop for a few years then show up on the field and contribute for YOUR team is just awesome.
Just a few short years ago you would be watching early in the year to see the new guys get a chance on the field. Now aside from a few stud freshmen, that doesnt happen You field players that have no connection to the school or the fanbase. It is a recipe for disaster.
Just a few short years ago you would be watching early in the year to see the new guys get a chance on the field. Now aside from a few stud freshmen, that doesnt happen You field players that have no connection to the school or the fanbase. It is a recipe for disaster.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:41 am to tigerfoot
Had nothing to do with his age
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:42 am to Lark225
There's an easy solution to all of this. Have the players become employees and collectively bargain to receive a fair share of the massive TV revenue. Place restrictions through the CBA on booster involvement to allow NIL to be what it was intended for. Let companies and businesses pay athletes for their name image and likeness through advertising, social media, and autograph signings. Shaking down the boosters for millions every year in this pay for play model we currently have is not only unsustainable, but it's driving fans away from this great game.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:44 am to Lark225
So you want BK to be paid $10 million and underwood to get nothing? nobody complained about money when bo davis got paid a record salary. nobody complained about money when texas and ou paid $100 million each to change conferences. now that its the players setting records everybody says the sky is falling.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:48 am to Tigertown2020
Tiger fans melt every summer when the news is slow.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:48 am to GeauxLSU4
some kind of salary cap with maximums would be great too. And honestly if thats even possible, some type of limit on transfers based on eligibility would settle all this shite down too. Like if you have one year remaining the max is 250k.
Although is feel like anything like this would need to be a collective bargaining type thing which would most likely get shot down by a players association.
Although is feel like anything like this would need to be a collective bargaining type thing which would most likely get shot down by a players association.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:51 am to trux83LSU
so tiger nation is for a players union now!
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:52 am to tigerfoot
quote:
Saban hung up his whistle because of this new landscape
Same thing Bobby Burton said today. This recruitment was a shite show
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At least twice on Thursday, Texas and at least one other college program were contacted by Damonic Williams' agent asking for "more".
Yes, that's a tried and true negotiating tactic. I don't blame an agent for trying, nor should you.
The response? Texas did not budge.
So Williams announced for OU last night.
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That is portal recruiting for some in this day and age. It's partially what Nick Saban said drove him out of the game.
But the Williams situation is not the case for every player, every agent, or every family in recruiting.
And that's where I think Steve Sarkisian has it right.
Yes, NIL should be there. But it should be the last thing discussed, not the first.
I'm not so sure that was ever the case in the Williams recruitment, even from the very outset, and perhaps why the juice just wasn't worth the squeeze.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:11 am to tigerfoot
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This move by OU will bite them in the butt
It cracks me up to see all the people talking about how bad this move will be for Oklahoma while simultaneously being mad that it happened.
If you actually believed that oklahoma (and/or any other school) was making a big mistake with their NIL deals, you'd be jumping for joy, not grumbling about it. If you think OU is messing up by paying williams what they're paying him, you should be rooting for it to continue happening, not wishing for NIL to calm down or go away. You think 2001 Billy Beane was hoping that other franchises would STOP overpaying for saves and stolen bases and batting average? Hell no - the fact that the richer franchises were overpaying was exactly what allowed him to assemble such great teams. If the richer teams (in our case, texas, oklahoma, miami, etc) wised up and started spending more intelligently, that would be *worse* for LSU, because they'd still have more $ and now they'd be spending it smarter.
Bottom line: If other teams are overpaying on the NIL market, that's great news for LSU, and we should want that to continue, so that we can exploit the resulting inefficiency. It makes no sense to wish for the inefficiency to go away.
(Also, I just want to add that it's absolutely hilarious to act like it's some moral outrage for a player to care about money more than things like facilities, staff, and gameday experience. I'm certain that the next time you turn down a six-figure pay bump because the other place has modern offices and a great holiday party, it will be the first.)
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:18 am to Tigertown2020
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so tiger nation is for a players union now!
It's so funny to me to watch people do all these mental gymnastics trying to justify their vehement opposition to the free market.
For some reason, it's beyond the pale that a 21yr-old kid would accept the job offer from the people giving him the highest salary by a six-figure margin - *if*, that is, he's a football player. In all other contexts, it wouldn't even be a discussion.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:34 am to LifeAquatic
You project alot of emotion in my post that simply does not exist.
Mad that it happened? Nope
Grumbling? Nope, observing and predicting.
Rooting for it to contiue to happen;? t cant, it will be someone else, diluting all the underdeveloped talent. There is no money tree.
Mad that it happened? Nope
Grumbling? Nope, observing and predicting.
Rooting for it to contiue to happen;? t cant, it will be someone else, diluting all the underdeveloped talent. There is no money tree.
quote:Again, it will not be A progrram, it will be a hodgepodge of multiple programs, there is no return for the investor on this investment except for football wins, and that will fade.
wised up and started spending more intelligently, that would be *worse* for LSU, because they'd still have more $ and now they'd be spending it smarter.
quote:Nope not moral outrage. Dont care. I do care that there will be diminishing interest and performance in the sport I really enjoy. [quote]Like, not even really a good attempt.
moral outrage
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:36 am to Lester Earl
quote:So ovservations and predictions are melts now.? Jesus, get better lingo.
Tiger fans melt every summer when the news is slow.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:41 am to tigerfoot
How much is a full ride scholarship worth at a major university? Don't tell me they are not being paid. The only solution is to give them a choice. Either the scholarship or the cash, not both. Let them make the "business decision".
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:43 am to tigerfoot
We care to field a team that can get a strong chance at winning championships and molding good citizens
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:43 am to tigerfoot
yea, melting over 1 guy when the news is slow is crazy and way less meaningless then you are making it out to be
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:16 am to GeauxLSU4
Believe me, I think long and hard about renewing my tickets every season and I need to just pull the trigger and bow out now
Obviously the tv revenue will sustain this way of college athletics so I guess they won't miss the ticket holders.
Obviously the tv revenue will sustain this way of college athletics so I guess they won't miss the ticket holders.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:37 am to tigerfoot
I don't blame him. I have several friends that have coached various sports in college and majority of them left b/c of the chaos it has become.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:50 am to GeauxLSU4
The issue with this is with money being taken away from athletics, how do they bridge the gap to afford other sports that depend on football revenue? Those just have to go away now?
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