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re: Best coach ever at LSU ?
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:06 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:06 am to Ace Midnight
Pat Henry and Skip Bertman...
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:29 am to Raymanz
quote:
but the coach who did the best coaching
I heard that Ace Midnight said Curley after a few beers, off duty, in Iraq.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 4:50 am to Raymanz
Football...Miles
Basketball....lets hope Johnson...but, Dale Brown
Basketball....lets hope Johnson...but, Dale Brown
Posted on 1/24/09 at 4:57 am to Doc Fenton
quote:
Patches O'Houlihan, LSU dodgeball coach (1934-41)
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:39 pm to Raymanz
I give the nod to my old coach, SKIP BERTMAN.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:44 pm to Blast and Laugh
What about Press Maravich? Not the best but he brought us Pete. Teams might have sucked, but he gave us a legend
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:25 pm to wmorris
I've been following LSU sports for 50 yrs. and I'd have to put Dietzel, Skip, Pat Henry and Sue Gunter at the top of this list.
Dietzel came in when the game was radically different, took an undermanned team and changed the face of college fb with his substitution innovations and weight training programs and set the future path for LSU fb at the same time.
Skip took a program that had barely achieved mediocrity and turned it into the best team and program in the land and also changed the landscape and game of college baseball almost single-handedly! He is widely credited with laying the foundation of the game as it is today.
Sue Gunter came in and established LSU as a perennial national power and did it virtually from the ground up. She also infuenced the overall game of women's basketball and Pat Summit readily admits Sue's influence on her.
Pat Henry's championship record speaks for itself. He is to LSU track what Skip is to LSU baseball.
Both Skip and Dietzel later made significant contributions to LSU sports as AD's.
Cholly Mac may not have had the success record wise of Dietzel, Saban and even Miles but he made significant contributions in other areas and I dare say he, along with Skip, had a positive effect on more young men's lives than any other coach. If you've read any of John Ed Bradley's work concerning LSU fb, then you know the regard and esteem with which Mac is held by his former players.
And btw, Cholly Mac is the only one of Bear Bryant's former players to beat him twice! And personally, given a choice between Cholly Mac and Saban, I'd pick Cholly Mac every time!
Dietzel came in when the game was radically different, took an undermanned team and changed the face of college fb with his substitution innovations and weight training programs and set the future path for LSU fb at the same time.
Skip took a program that had barely achieved mediocrity and turned it into the best team and program in the land and also changed the landscape and game of college baseball almost single-handedly! He is widely credited with laying the foundation of the game as it is today.
Sue Gunter came in and established LSU as a perennial national power and did it virtually from the ground up. She also infuenced the overall game of women's basketball and Pat Summit readily admits Sue's influence on her.
Pat Henry's championship record speaks for itself. He is to LSU track what Skip is to LSU baseball.
Both Skip and Dietzel later made significant contributions to LSU sports as AD's.
Cholly Mac may not have had the success record wise of Dietzel, Saban and even Miles but he made significant contributions in other areas and I dare say he, along with Skip, had a positive effect on more young men's lives than any other coach. If you've read any of John Ed Bradley's work concerning LSU fb, then you know the regard and esteem with which Mac is held by his former players.
And btw, Cholly Mac is the only one of Bear Bryant's former players to beat him twice! And personally, given a choice between Cholly Mac and Saban, I'd pick Cholly Mac every time!
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:27 pm to Raymanz
Nick Saban did the most to bring LSU's atheletic program to a competetive national level in all sports. The Academic Center, The new baseball and softball facilities would not have been possible if not for St. Nick changing the way ticket prices were at the new expanded stadium. I am sure that the well informed could add a ton to this list. But that being said, he not only was an excellent coach and recruiter but he was a God send to all the atheletic programs at LSU.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:29 pm to rickyh
to me its easily skip bertman and then dale brown.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 1:58 pm to Raymanz
Skip Bertman...I don't see how this could be argued
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:06 pm to Tiger in NY
Bertman, Pat Henry, Dietzel, Saban, Brown, Miles,Gunter,Cholly Mac, Moore,Rabenhorst.
Ten to go to war with.
Ten to go to war with.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:13 pm to rickyh
Methinks you give too much credit to the Little Scumbag for those things. I would think that most of the credit for those would have to go to Emmert, Bertman and the TAF. Certainly Saban was the most visible force during the time those things came into being and perhaps could be credited with having the greatest influence on the development of the Academic Center but overall I doubt he had much of an effect on the overall athletic program. He was too immersed in is own little world.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:16 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:Henry owns Saban by this metric. Many more events and dozens of times as many championships . . . yeah, he would run away with the comparison to Saban. Skip might give him a run, though, because the fans at Baseball might be enough times as large as the track crowds to make up for the 5.4 to 1 advantage in titles.
number of campionships x attendence at event + tv appearances = rating as a coach.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:16 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:
Patches O'Houlihan, LSU dodgeball coach (1934-41)
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:21 pm to los angeles tiger
Skip, Saban, Henry
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:25 pm to los angeles tiger
No one mentioned of John Brady???
Despite the draconian sanction, , JB took the basketball team to 1 sweet-16 and 1 Final-4 in his tenure at LSU.
Along the way, JB has a winning records against coack K, B. Donovan, Billy G.(at Kentucky now) and Barnes at Texas.
J. Brady is the BEST coach ever in the US, not just LSU only.(Ask tiger-20, ASU Beattles, Bobby Moore, Bad cat and xvi if you guys don't believe me)
Despite the draconian sanction, , JB took the basketball team to 1 sweet-16 and 1 Final-4 in his tenure at LSU.
Along the way, JB has a winning records against coack K, B. Donovan, Billy G.(at Kentucky now) and Barnes at Texas.
J. Brady is the BEST coach ever in the US, not just LSU only.(Ask tiger-20, ASU Beattles, Bobby Moore, Bad cat and xvi if you guys don't believe me)
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:33 pm to Raymanz
Has to be Pat Henry, track coach. They won title after title.
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