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2024 St. Louis Cardinals Season Thread

Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:41 pm
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13663 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Are the St. Louis Cardinals rebuilding or simply in a bad stretch?
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Are they heading into mediocrity or are things going to get better?

Yes
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
61195 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:56 pm to
Their rotation has been falling off for a while. They clearly needed to remake it this off-season and largely added a bunch of #4 type starters with little upside. I’m not sure what they were expecting but the results so far aren’t surprising. They need to hire pitching development people from an org that does it well
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16223 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:05 pm to
pitching is good, rotation is solid 1-3, offense is a nightmare.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
76500 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:09 pm to
25th in OPS is alarming
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16223 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:16 pm to
It will get better, but not sure how much better
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
6417 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:21 pm to
DeWitt and John Mozeliak are the problem. The franchise will improve the day those numbskulls are gone.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
76500 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:23 pm to
I hope it doesn’t affect Marmol’s standing with the team. He’s a great manager.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
281616 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:27 pm to
Tom Pagnozzi
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14821 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:32 pm to
Neither
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14821 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

pitching is good


Dafuq? Lol
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17714 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:34 pm to
Ownership no longer cares. And player development is a shell of what it used to be. There's your answer.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14821 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:34 pm to
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Are the St. Louis Cardinals rebuilding or simply in a bad stretch?


The big league roster is below average as well as the farm system. They don’t spend money. How are they rebuilding anything?
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16223 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:37 pm to
3rd in the NL in era .. and this is without our 2 best setup guys. Need to remove either Gibson or MM from the rotation asap. Neither are gonna get much better than a 5 era. Can’t have two doing that.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14821 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:41 pm to
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3rd in the NL in era .. and this is without our 2 best setup guys.

After 3 weeks

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Need to remove either Gibson or MM from the rotation asap.

And replace them with who?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
66368 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:55 pm to
Are you trolling? The arms have been good to great.

They can't hit. But it's early and they just got Noot back and Edman isn't too far from return either.

I'd say wait and see, most projections had them winning the division for a reason.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16223 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:57 pm to
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After 3 weeks


…. What’s the point in saying this? So it’s assumed it’ll get ready bad? Could we say it may actually get better?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
61195 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:00 pm to
Do you actually think it will get better?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
76500 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:01 pm to


Their offense has been abysmal
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14821 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:09 pm to
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What’s the point in saying this? So it’s assumed it’ll get ready bad? Could we say it may actually get better?


The starting rotation is terrible outside of Gray. Yes, they will not finish anywhere near THIRD in MLB in ERA
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