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re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:22 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:22 pm to Freauxzen
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Because the issue of abortion is not REALLY about some legal classification.
Wait, what? Abortion bans aren’t about legal classifications? Then why criminalize it?
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If we register all fetuses, does mean that you would support a total abortion ban? Is that the only thing standing in your way?
I don’t support any laws. They are meaningless and are manipulated by the powerful and wealthy at every turn. Laws don’t prevent crime, as evidenced by our country having the highest incarceration rate on the planet.
If Chelsea Clinton or Ivanka Trump (that’s the daughter, right?) wanted an abortion, no abortion ban would prevent either one of them from obtaining one.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:26 pm to 4cubbies
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I don’t support any laws.
SO you want to live in a society dominated by criminals and predators? This makes sense given your appeal to clemency for murderers and rapists.
You do realize, in a society with no laws, you are the first victim in most cases?
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Laws don’t prevent crime,
They do, to law abiding people. To those less moral, the penalties to break laws serve as a healthy deterrant, but is not 100%.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 2:13 pm to 4cubbies
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Wait, what? Abortion bans aren’t about legal classifications? Then why criminalize it?
Let's put it another way:
The burden of proof isn't on my to affirm legal protections, or to affirm citizenship. It's for you to prove why they aren't citizens.
And your answer is not, "Because they don't have a document." Because they didn't have a document before and were assumed to be citizens.
For the vast majority of time 1) Babies were humans 2) Those humans were citizens. The country operated like this since it's inception. No one questioned the life in the womb, and no one questioned that that person was a citizen. And all laws that had been crafted aligned with that.
It's only recently that it changed, and only because we wanted the right to kill people. But there's never been good rational proof on that - only very modern relative "muh body my choice," stuff. It's never been about either some legal classification or even science. It's a pure emotional request that has never been proven out.
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