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re: Police locate kidnapped girl, then shoot and kill innocent kidnapped girl (YouTube)

Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:48 am to
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Candily, I'm not sure how we reconcile them. There probably aren't enough realistic candidates for the amount of LEOs we need who can do the job as we all envision. So you're in a position where you either have to greatly increase the incentive to get into the field for those with higher intelligence/judgment, or you have to strike some sort of balance where you hold the idiots responsible without going so far as to alienate cops and reducing the number of aspiring LEOs.

I think we're in a situation now where the people who want to work those jobs for modest pay and potentially life altering risk is naturally a combination of good-judgment alphas and bad-judgment imbeciles. In other words, not ideal.

Up the pay and up the responsibility.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10462 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:49 am to
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Up the pay and up the responsibility.
To what level of responsibility? Exactly what and how much of it should they be responsible for?
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11278 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:18 am to
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Up the pay and up the responsibility.


Cops in many parts of the country make an absurd amount of money for having so little education. One of the real problems reformers face is that when you explain to average citizens the reality of police budgets, most of them straight up don’t believe you
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79414 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Up the pay and up the responsibility.


I'm not against it. I know it's a weird comparison but I view it like I do teachers.

If we value having really wise people with good judgment in these areas of public life, we're going to have to greatly up the pay and squeeze out many of the people who are there now. Society will have to invest in it. And those leading the charge will have the unenviable task of convincing the public that a bureaucracy that can't accomplish...anything, can undertake this massive paradigm shift efficiently/wisely.

And you're still going to have major stigma issues and I think you've still got a problem of how to rightly gauge maturity/judgment. You need brave, sober minded and intelligent people. Half of them won't be interested off the bat. More won't be interested because of the lifestyle (bankers hours are more conducive to family, etc.). I'm just not sure there are enough people who fit the mold who can be compelled to take the jobs.
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