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re: Police locate kidnapped girl, then shoot and kill innocent kidnapped girl (YouTube)
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:23 am to Pedro
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:23 am to Pedro
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If im the deputy that was trying to help her i wouldve murdered the dumb arse that fired.
Its amazing how irrational this board can be. You think the person that fired the shot saw her and thought "ima kill that kid"?
If cops were trained like seal team 6 then this probably wouldn't of happened. But they aren't anything but reg joe's off the street who took a simple course. If you want seals patrolling the streets then contact your representative and ask them get it done. Also ask them to up your taxes by a far margin because they aren't cheap like joe's off the street.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:27 am to Turnblad85
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Its amazing how irrational this board can be. You think the person that fired the shot saw her and thought "ima kill that kid"?
If cops were trained like seal team 6 then this probably wouldn't of happened. But they aren't anything but reg joe's off the street who took a simple course. If you want seals patrolling the streets then contact your representative and ask them get it done. Also ask them to up your taxes by a far margin because they aren't cheap like joe's off the street.
I dont think having the presence of mind to not fire at someone unless youre positive theyre a threat is asking too much. thats just me though. If these guys just showed up and didnt know whether or not the kid was a threat they shouldnt have fired.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:32 am to Turnblad85
I'm somewhat sympathetic to both viewpoints.
- First, it's unacceptable. It just can't happen. Nobody should apologize or excuse it. When you sign up for the job you take on the responsibility.
- Second, I think it's worth considering how we talk about and handle this stuff on the backend. While there will always be some people up for the challenge/responsibility (for better and worse) the pitch of "come make 50-70k in a career where you may be labeled a murderer for errors in judgment" will ultimately lead to what we're seeing - difficulty in finding good LEOs.
Candily, I'm not sure how we reconcile them. There probably aren't enough realistic candidates for the amount of LEOs we need who can do the job as we all envision. So you're in a position where you either have to greatly increase the incentive to get into the field for those with higher intelligence/judgment, or you have to strike some sort of balance where you hold the idiots responsible without going so far as to alienate cops and reducing the number of aspiring LEOs.
I think we're in a situation now where the people who want to work those jobs for modest pay and potentially life altering risk is naturally a combination of good-judgment alphas and bad-judgment imbeciles. In other words, not ideal.
- First, it's unacceptable. It just can't happen. Nobody should apologize or excuse it. When you sign up for the job you take on the responsibility.
- Second, I think it's worth considering how we talk about and handle this stuff on the backend. While there will always be some people up for the challenge/responsibility (for better and worse) the pitch of "come make 50-70k in a career where you may be labeled a murderer for errors in judgment" will ultimately lead to what we're seeing - difficulty in finding good LEOs.
Candily, I'm not sure how we reconcile them. There probably aren't enough realistic candidates for the amount of LEOs we need who can do the job as we all envision. So you're in a position where you either have to greatly increase the incentive to get into the field for those with higher intelligence/judgment, or you have to strike some sort of balance where you hold the idiots responsible without going so far as to alienate cops and reducing the number of aspiring LEOs.
I think we're in a situation now where the people who want to work those jobs for modest pay and potentially life altering risk is naturally a combination of good-judgment alphas and bad-judgment imbeciles. In other words, not ideal.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:31 am to Turnblad85
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Also ask them to up your taxes by a far margin because they aren't cheap like joe's off the street.
Enlisted personnel (E4-E6 or even higher) aren't making oodles of cash.
What metric are you judging this comment by?
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