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re: If Brock Bowers or Rome Odunze are still on the board at 14, do you take one of them?

Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:25 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:25 am to
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This is the deepest group of OTs we’ve seen in a while.

It's deep with B-level guys.

There are no elite guys, and Alt is the only B+ prospect.

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These guys are no where near Penning level projects if thats what scares you.

They don't have to be near that level to not be worth it.

Most non-S tier OL don't really step up until year 3. That will (hopefully) be Carr's final year. They won't help at all this year, which your needs-based argument is structured around.

Bowers will only not produce in year 1 if our coaches don't want him to.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:40 am to
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It's deep with B-level guys. There are no elite guys, and Alt is the only B+ prospect.


According to who?

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They don't have to be near that level to not be worth it. Most non-S tier OL don't really step up until year 3. That will (hopefully) be Carr's final year. They won't help at all this year, which your needs-based argument is structured around. Bowers will only not produce in year 1 if our coaches don't want him to.


This is all made up assumption. Several rookie OL drafted in first rounds have produced productively for their teams. You can literally look up every year the amount of rookie OL drafted in first round that are productive .

You have such high hopes for Bowers. I will say this again in the past 20 years very few if any TE in the first round have had a productive rookie season. Yet your almost for certain Bowers will. Most of the leagues best TEs weren’t drafted in the first round.

No offense the basis of your whole argument is based on your personal assessments of draft prospects while Im telling you historically everything you have stated is not true. (For instance by stating Bowers will have an impact if coaches let him). I don’t mind having an argument but using your own analysis of draft prospects for validation of your argument to pick BPA is just silly.
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 8:49 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:26 am to
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It's deep with B-level guys.

There are no elite guys, and Alt is the only B+ prospect
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Pretty much. Alt checks nearly every box.

Mims has ~800 snaps on his resume, Guyton has ~1k. They are projects who have the potential to be good. Smell a little like penning coming out

Olu got bullied by strength rushers and leaves a lot to be desired in the run game. Below avg arm length and weight for an OT

Fuaga has T Rex arms and profiles more as a guard

Fuatanu has below average height for a OT. Older guy who broke on to the scene late. Questionable technique gives you Penning vibes again


All this to say these guys also do a lot well. But as you aptly put, they are B level guys and none are a sure thing.

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