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re: Huge Fight at Fred's...UPDATE: Arrest made
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:39 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:39 pm to lsupride87
"Repath backs up into the parking lot and about halfway into the parking lot, Repath stops and attempts to hit Marsiglia. Marsiglia ducks and is not hit. Repath then backs up several steps and Marsiglia then takes both hands and shoves Repath by the shoulders"
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:40 pm to DRock88
I mean I guess it’s how you read it. But I read it as Repath swings, misses, and is stumbling from his miss
I don’t read it as he throws a punch. Both people look at each other. Repath starts back pedaling
I don’t read it as he throws a punch. Both people look at each other. Repath starts back pedaling
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:41 pm to lsupride87
quote:gain repath backing up and no longer posing a threat is my point. Who know what they were saying.
No. but once again MM did nothing physical at all until he was swing at by Repath. Walking in someone’s direction doesn’t take away your future self defense claims. For gods sake Trayvon martin was followed for 100s of feet by Zimmerman before the altercation took place
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:41 pm to DRock88
Repath is literally backing up, stops and takes a "back off me" swing at Marsiglia, then continues backing up when he is pushed.
And, again, I have no idea how this will play out. It's just not all that cut and dry.
And, again, I have no idea how this will play out. It's just not all that cut and dry.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:42 pm to choupiquesushi
Repath became a threat again when he threw a punch directly at MM
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
He missed then kept backing up.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:45 pm to DRock88
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Repath is literally backing up, stops and takes a "back off me" swing at Marsiglia, then continues backing up when he is pushed. And, again, I have no idea how this will play out. It's just not all that cut and dry.
1. Not cut and dry doesn’t work for the state
2. I have a hard time believing that possible version of events knowing repath is a guy that punches people in the back of the head
And all we are doing is guessing. We aren’t a court of law. So yes, I know I am guessing as well
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:45 pm to lsupride87
quote:by all accounts solid kid while at Jesuit. Safe bet he hasn't been in many bar fights.
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Despite him looking like a measly frat boy, I doubt this was Marsiglia's first rodeo.
I mean the fact that he didn’t even punch repath after being swung at doesn’t make him sound like much of a brawler
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:46 pm to choupiquesushi
Jesuit kids get in their fair share of bar fights.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:47 pm to lsupride87
quote:so you are saying the fact that he was backing up was irrelevant - because it is not.
Repath became a threat again when he threw a punch directly at MM
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:49 pm to DRock88
If I'm being honest, who is at fault really matters none to me. It's just a crappy situation that plays out differently every weekend at a college bar somewhere. This one just happened to end really badly.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:57 pm to choupiquesushi
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gain repath backing up and no longer posing a threat is my point. Who know what they were saying.
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The document said Repath swung at one of the members in the group. He missed and they hit back, knocking Repath backward.
You apparently are working off info different than what the police report says. What's your source?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:05 pm to DRock88
quote:Agreed
I'm being honest, who is at fault really matters none to me. It's just a crappy situation that plays out differently every weekend at a college bar somewhere. This one just happened to end really badly.
My main thing, take away the legal element. Read the actual affidavit. How does it make you feel?
Honestly, it makes me angry at Repath, and I barely have any anger at MM. hoenstly it’s close to zero
MM is a 21 year old lsu student at the college bar. His friend his punched in the back of the head. He is then swung at, so he pushes the guy. The only reason even a small fraction of anger is towards him for me is it seems he could have avoided being swung at the second time
Repath is 26 years old with children. He punches someone in the back of the head. He then swings again at another person
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
. What's your source?
lsupride87
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:09 pm to tgrbaitn08
Sidebar question
Do those that think the state has a case also think Zimmerman should have been guilty?
Do those that think the state has a case also think Zimmerman should have been guilty?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:12 pm to GooDat
Backing up doesn’t really mean anything. That routinely happens in bar fights because no one knows what they are doing. It’s just a human reaction, it doesn’t mean they are trying to diffuse the situation. Most of the time they are gaining distance to fight some more.
In this case it seems like Repath wanted hands that night. Opposite of the portrayal of an innocent dad caught up in a brawl
In this case it seems like Repath wanted hands that night. Opposite of the portrayal of an innocent dad caught up in a brawl
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:12 pm to DRock88
quote:yes but their share isn't very big... and I am by no means a carrollton and banks fella.
Jesuit kids get in their fair share of bar fights.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I would say the most common bar brawler move is the back shuffle while swinging or talking shite
Backing up doesn’t really mean anything. That routinely happens in bar fights because no one knows what they are doing. It’s just a human reaction, it doesn’t mean they are trying to diffuse the situation. Most of the time they are gaining distance to fight some more.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:15 pm to Obtuse1
In an alternate universe the kid is black and OT goes berserk saying death penalty
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:15 pm to choupiquesushi
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gain repath backing up and no longer posing a threat is my point. Who know what they were saying.
Aguing this may be interesting/fun but we simply don't have the facts to come to a conclusion.
While again I haven't looked up LA case or codified law here in general crim law terms the events and timeline from the initial altercation and the final "push or swing" are incredibly important to whether Matthew has the the defence of self defense or the defense of others covering that push/punch.
I can think of multiple hypotheticals crafted around the "facts" that have come out where he has a defense and multiple hypotheticals where he does not have a defense. If WBRZ's reporting of the police report is accurate the wording seems specifically chosen to remove Matt's defence but police reports are designed to support an arrest if that is the way they are leaning.
Someone posted a more complete fact pattern a couple of pages back but in typical OT drive by posting it was uncited.
At this point, I think proclaiming the outcome is in stone either way is just a guess made by filling in the gaps in the limited fact pattern. There are a lot of salient details we don't have for the time period between the first altercation inside and the death of Repath outside. There also seem like there are external forces that would be at play with the DA here. My gut says they both were probably guilty of criminal acts somewhere along the line but we don't have enough facts to begin to determine whether Matthew was criminally responsible for the death.
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