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AT&T over Cox Internet?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:23 pm
I have Cox internet only and AT&T is just starting to install fiber with lines crossing the street and being installed on 1 side thus far. I've been experiencing a lot of outages the past 2 months and AT&T is the only higher speed option here.
Question: is DSL a good option over Cox for internet only? Both companies ads state how great their service and performance are but it would be great to hear from local subscribers.
Question: is DSL a good option over Cox for internet only? Both companies ads state how great their service and performance are but it would be great to hear from local subscribers.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:42 pm to Macfly
If you can get 100Mbps DSL with at&t, it is just fine for an internet service. you'd have unlimited data (no caps) and you would likely be close enough to the first hop that you wouldn't need interleaving enabled. Interleaving is an error correction method that can add about 20-40ms to your latencies. Without it, DSL can have very low latencies. At&ts core network is also really solid.
EDIT: I accidentally submitted too soon. The biggest issue with DSL is that it can no longer be well maintained. So if at&t is doing fiber right now, great. Shouldn't be that big of an issue because you wont need to be on the DSL for several years. If you are looking at a several year long outlook, the DSL could very well have a fatality in the next 5-10 years leaving you without service but if that happens, you can just go back to COX.
EDIT: I accidentally submitted too soon. The biggest issue with DSL is that it can no longer be well maintained. So if at&t is doing fiber right now, great. Shouldn't be that big of an issue because you wont need to be on the DSL for several years. If you are looking at a several year long outlook, the DSL could very well have a fatality in the next 5-10 years leaving you without service but if that happens, you can just go back to COX.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:47 pm to Macfly
I switched from Cox to AT&T fiber last year. Much better and cheaper
Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:15 pm to Macfly
We switched from Cox to AT&T fiber about a year ago. My only complaint is that their gateway sucks as a wireless router. It's easy enough to put in bypass and use something else though. Other than that, the service and speeds have been great.
I should have done it sooner as we've had it available in our neighborhood for several years.
I should have done it sooner as we've had it available in our neighborhood for several years.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 6:38 pm to fallguy_1978
The installation is proceeding with fiber ends and junction boxes (?) continuing to be buried on the lawns.
Can you please explain this process, hardware, ? Will probably make the switch when fiber is available.
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It's easy enough to put in bypass and use something else though.
Can you please explain this process, hardware, ? Will probably make the switch when fiber is available.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:12 pm to Macfly
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Can you please explain this process, hardware, ? ?
You can plug a different wireless router into the AT&T gateway and set it to pass through mode so that device functions as your router.
Maybe you'll be like some and won't have any issues with the AT&T one. It was pretty spotty in our house.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:40 pm to notsince98
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The biggest issue with DSL is that it can no longer be well maintained.
Fiber always. Fiber is on, or off. Unlike wires that involve copper wire or plastic jackets, it works or it doesn't. It makes both maintenance and troubleshooting easier (I didn't do dirt work, but spent too much time in places I didn't want to be.) I had AT&T fiber for almost ten years, and had three outages, including Harvey, which was power based. I've had four cable internet outages in the last ten days of about an hour each.
Notsince98 can correct me, but any cable that has an overly mechanical connector, like COAX is more subject to water intrusion, than a fiber cable is. The chance of moisture interrupting fiber is (again, tell me if you think I'm wrong) is logarithmically lower than than it happening to COAX. If OP is not aware, a COAX cable contains multiple layers for transmission which are all prone to water intrusion. You never know how tight that clamp was when your installer created to the connector that plugs into your house (DMARC.) You don't know if the cable was stripped properly. Did the installer put the right moisture loop (designed to collect condensation and keep it away from any copper, I think that's what it is called, but it's been a while since I got electrocuted by a T-1) in place?
Point being, fiber tends to be 1/0 (on/off.) Will anyone be able to tell me why my cable Internet died repeatedly? Nope. And then there is the fact I don't think I've met a human happy with Cox in 25 years.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:10 am to LemmyLives
Thanks Lem and all. AT&T looks good for me.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:36 am to Macfly
quote:Fiber Upload Speed: 990 MBPS
AT&T looks good for me.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:20 pm to Macfly
10 years in and I've only had one outage with ATT fiber, and it was some of their DNS servers. Pretty good record. Run a plex server and routinely upload 2 or 3 TB's a month.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:08 am to Macfly
With AT&T you can be a Gigillionaire
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:49 pm to Macfly
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Thanks Lem and all. AT&T looks good for me.
The choice is ATT fiber, and it's not close. Cheaper, faster, and vastly more reliable.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:27 am to Joshjrn
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The choice is ATT fiber, and it's not close. Cheaper, faster, and vastly more reliable.
I think people didn't notice is main question was at&t DSL vs cable.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:42 am to notsince98
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I think people didn't notice is main question was at&t DSL vs cable.
I think people "noticed", and I can only speak for myself, but I assumed OP was simply mistaken/careless with his wording.
This was the OP:
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I have Cox internet only and AT&T is just starting to install fiber with lines crossing the street and being installed on 1 side thus far. I've been experiencing a lot of outages the past 2 months and AT&T is the only higher speed option here. Question: is DSL a good option over Cox for internet only? Both companies ads state how great their service and performance are but it would be great to hear from local subscribers.
While OP clearly asked about DSL, the entire opening to the post makes absolutely zero sense in that context.
But, with that said, it could just be a nonsequitor opening and OP is really asking about DSL service, not fiber. Would probably be good for them to clarify.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:59 am to Joshjrn
he was asking about using DSL until the fiber service was ready.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:02 am to notsince98
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he was asking about using DSL until the fiber service was ready.
If that's what he's asking, aren't ATT DSL and ATT Fiber treated damned near like different companies? Even if DSL were better, which is very much debatable, I don't think having to deal with two separate installs 60 days apart would be worth the aggravation, utterly divorced from the individual services.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 9:09 am to Joshjrn
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If that's what he's asking, aren't ATT DSL and ATT Fiber treated damned near like different companies? Even if DSL were better, which is very much debatable, I don't think having to deal with two separate installs 60 days apart would be worth the aggravation, utterly divorced from the individual services.
Not really. The massive difference is just the maintainability between the two. at&t is flat out letting VDSL fail in some areas and can't fix it. Billing and all that are the same. Field techs are different due to copper vs fiber.
The biggest issue is fiber rollouts are not predictable. They could be started and done within 3 weeks or they can get paused in the middle for a few years.
This is why I mentioned getting 100Mbps speeds. If you can't get that with at&t DSL, then stay away. If you can, then you are very close to the node and your chances of quality service increase a lot.
Personally, I would really push Cox to fix any line issues and fix the connection before going to the DSL service but that is just me. My only recent experience with cable has been Xfinity and they provide awesome service where I am. I switch between Xfinity and At&t fiber all the time based on $ and both services have been great.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 8:51 am to Joshjrn
Yep. I meant fiber. Sorry for the confusion that was solely due to my lack of understanding the technology. Everything originated when I saw the fiber being installed on my street and I mistakenly thought fiber and DSL were one and the same. At the moment, Cox is the only higher speed option in my neighborhood.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 9:57 am to Macfly
yes, when fiber becomes available, no reason to avoid it. It is good. Price isn't great but that is the only thing.
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