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re: How does Trump’s half billon dollar bond in NY not violate the 8th amendment?

Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
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There were excessive fines imposed.

Not what I replied to (which was a post about criminal bail/bond).
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Not what I replied to (which was a post about criminal bail/bond).
We've had a couple of ?lawyers? incorrectly jabbing posters on the 8thA relating to criminal rather than civil law.

Issues of preverdict criminal penalties morph with similar problems in the civil system. They are birds-of-a-feather. The requirement for Trump to forfeit massive funds in this instance, when there is virtually no chance of the naked judge's rulings/assessments surviving appeal, is absurd.

One would surmise the refusal to grant a jury trial for such a massive fine would run afoul of the Constitution. The fine itself would seem to run afoul of the Constitution. Beriaesque AG pronouncements during her campaign seem similarly dubious Constitutionally.

Meanwhile, the potential for damage during this appeal reminds in some ways of Weissmann's Arthur Andersen case where, by the time SCOTUS got to gut Weissmann 9-0, AA was defunct, ruined and its 28,000 employees were screwed. Consequences for Weissmann? Nada. In fact, he was later lauded as a "pitbull" for that legal abortion. That is a shite system.
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