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re: The best explanation of what’s going on at Boeing
Posted on 3/15/24 at 6:22 pm to RedRifle
Posted on 3/15/24 at 6:22 pm to RedRifle
Half of that reads like a guy from Seattle who doesn’t like Boeing moving to other places.
“Trained Seattle workforce” lol. Like only the hippies in Seattle can build planes and they never hired anyone from anywhere else.
“Trained Seattle workforce” lol. Like only the hippies in Seattle can build planes and they never hired anyone from anywhere else.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:27 pm to The Boat
Yeah South Carolina doesn’t have the issues that Seattle does. That reeks of finding an additional scapegoat when the rest of their post covers it nicely.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 8:25 pm to The Boat
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Half of that reads like a guy from Seattle who doesn’t like Boeing moving to other places.
“Trained Seattle workforce” lol. Like only the hippies in Seattle can build planes and they never hired anyone from anywhere else.
Well the 787 is a massive pile of shite and a gigantic part of that program was moving a ton of the build out of Seattle.
Boeing built great planes in Seattle. Now they build dogshit across the country/world.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:26 pm to The Boat
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Trained Seattle workforce” lol. Like only the hippies in Seattle can build planes and they never hired anyone from anywhere else
idk how many people did they move from seattle to their new plants?
experienced workforce matters in every field.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:22 am to The Boat
I am all for reducing the power and influence of unions, especially skilled tradesman’s unions - this isn’t 1910 with coal miners being paid in scrip.
However, there is no questioning that Boeing’s Charleston facility has been shitting the bed. From finding wrenches in the the aircraft after delivery to wiring issues and just the inability to complete and deliver aircraft on time, Charleston has been bad. Boeing had to bring workers from Seattle to clean up their mess and retrain them in the late 2010s.
That said, it’s a result of their management being overzealous trying to move quickly on non-union labor. If done methodically it could have been a smashing success, unfortunately they used the 787 program as the excuse to “diversify” their manufacturing base and unfortunately that aircraft was already behind schedule so they had to rush everything.
Let’s not even start on the KC-46 Pegasus shitshow.
Tl;dr - Boeing has been a shite show for years.
However, there is no questioning that Boeing’s Charleston facility has been shitting the bed. From finding wrenches in the the aircraft after delivery to wiring issues and just the inability to complete and deliver aircraft on time, Charleston has been bad. Boeing had to bring workers from Seattle to clean up their mess and retrain them in the late 2010s.
That said, it’s a result of their management being overzealous trying to move quickly on non-union labor. If done methodically it could have been a smashing success, unfortunately they used the 787 program as the excuse to “diversify” their manufacturing base and unfortunately that aircraft was already behind schedule so they had to rush everything.
Let’s not even start on the KC-46 Pegasus shitshow.
Tl;dr - Boeing has been a shite show for years.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 9:06 am to The Boat
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Half of that reads like a guy from Seattle who doesn’t like Boeing moving to other places. “Trained Seattle workforce” lol. Like only the hippies in Seattle can build planes and they never hired anyone from anywhere else.
I realize this part will offend people because it sounds like he’s talking down to southerners but I think I can explain it better.
I think what he’s trying to say, is because Boeing stopped focusing on engineering they shipped a design with poor drawings, plans, and work instructions to a new work force in South Carolina. Doing so cost Boeing lot of tribal knowledge that the manufacturing groups in Seattle had accrued over time.
I see this everyday in industrial facilities. The bottom line always wins out and quality suffers. Then we go back to where we started.
This post was edited on 3/16/24 at 9:09 am
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