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re: Dumbasses in House pass Trojan Horse TikTok ban

Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:46 pm to
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You don't know WTF your TikTok algorithm does, how it is designed, or why.


As it pertains to viewing, it's pretty evident what it does on that front. It shows me content based on my viewing habits and occasionally throws different/new content in to see if you're interested. If you are, it'll adjust the content thrown your way. If you aren't it keeps similar content away from your feed.

Anyone who uses the app on a regular basis understands this.

Everyone else who says it's brainwashing tool that only shows leftist/marxist/socialist/etc... propaganda either has never used the app or is being willfully ignorant because there is individual user created content coming from every inch of the political spectrum on the app.

Which is again, is ironic has hell considering how one sided "American owned" social media platforms are in favor of one political ideology.

Based on my consuming of most social media platforms, TikTok has offered the most wide array of content from all walks of life/politics/opinion versus its competitors and it's not particularly close.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:47 pm to
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This bill will allow the president to ban X if he does not like twitter posts within X.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124713 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:48 pm to
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It sets a dangerous precedent either way.
What precedent?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124713 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:51 pm to
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Anyone who uses the app on a regular basis understands this.
You are exceedingly naive.

There is a reason TikTok is banned in China. There is a reason the alternate version run in China is not offered as a TikTok alternative in the rest of the world.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:54 pm to
Anti-1A Politburo Bill:

SELECTIVELY RESTRICTS and CENSORS:

-- Open & free ideas AND information
-- Politburo, Diddler and Shadow Overlord "tricks-of-the-trade", ongoing charades, smoke & mirrors
-- Especially frickery that can be exposed
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Curious, have you used TikTok and if not, how exactly do you think it works?



Yes and it pushes certain content on purpose to give a false narrative about America etc. It's literally brainwashing in a sense. Social Media has done more harm to America than literally anything else, over the last 2 decades.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19236 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:56 pm to


This is a completely random section from the definitions page. This is the actual law:
_______________________________________________________
It shall be unlawful for an entity to distribute, maintain, or update (or enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of) a foreign adversary controlled application by carrying out, within the land or maritime borders of the United States, any of the following:

(A) Providing services to distribute, maintain, or update such foreign adversary controlled application (including any source code of such application) by means of a marketplace (including an online mobile application store) through which users within the land or maritime borders of the United States may access, maintain, or update such application.

(B) Providing internet hosting services to enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of such foreign adversary controlled application for users within the land or maritime borders of the United States.

Specifically calling out...

(f) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this Act may be construed

(1) to authorize the Attorney General to pursue
enforcement, under this section, other than enforcement of subsection (a) or (b) (relating to foreign advesary controlled media)

(2) to authorize the Attorney General to pursue enforcement, under this section, against an individual user of a foreign adversary controlled application; or

(3) except as expressly provided herein, to alter
or affect any other authority provided by or established under another provision of Federal law.

_________________________________________________
This is as narrow a bill that's come out of Washington in years
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57529 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I didn't get this Trojan horse memo. Crazy how all these people all of a sudden started using the same term. Marching orders
WTF are you talking about, there was a thread on here yesterday calling it a trojan horse and explaining why it was.

seems pretty simple to me.
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73296 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:58 pm to
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There is a reason TikTok is banned in China. There is a reason the alternate version run in China is not offered as a TikTok alternative in the rest of the world.


We aren’t communist China though. We are supposed to be a “free country”.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Everyone else who says it's brainwashing tool that only shows leftist/marxist/socialist/etc... propaganda either has never used the app or is being willfully ignorant because there is individual user created content coming from every inch of the political spectrum on the app.

Which is again, is ironic has hell considering how one sided "American owned" social media platforms are in favor of one political ideology.


Spot on.

Sure, it's potentially a dangerous too, frequented by ideologues across the political spectrum (as you alluded to) and laden with spyware -- just like the rest of the platforms; The "problem" as the hypocrites who pretend they rep "The People" and USCON:

7ic-7oc is so open and free that it is a threat to any shadow entities who need to quash ANY and ALL free flows of info.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69426 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:00 pm to
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WTF are you talking about, there was a thread on here yesterday calling it a trojan horse and explaining why it was.


Its literally in the news headlines, came out of nowhere.


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BREAKING NEWS: Thomas Massie Says Bill To Ban TikTok Is 'Actually A Trojan Horse'



quote:

The House of Representatives has advanced a bill that could effectively ban TikTok within the United States. ... Trojan horse” and that “some of ...




quote:

TikTok Ban “Trojan Horse” For Censorship - Rumble To BUY Company?! - PREVIEW #324 ; Gutfeld: Another lefty sports site was just canned. Fox News ...




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Is TikTok Your Best Friend Or A Trojan Horse?


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Robert F. Kennedy Jr

The so-called “Tik Tok ban” is actually a Trojan Horse that could allow the President to ban any website or app merely by asserting that it ...






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TikTok is China's Trojan Horse



quote:

The Tik Tok ban is a trojan horse. #usa #nyc



this could be why


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Elon Musk Cites Massie Concern of Trojan Horse in TikTok Ban Bill
If he tweeted it, prob picked up steam everywhere.

This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:01 pm to
The same reason we never allowed foreign companies (or enemies) to own our television stations.


Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73296 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:02 pm to
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The same reason we never allowed foreign companies (or enemies) to own our television stations.




That worked well …
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:04 pm to
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You are exceedingly naive.


How so?

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There is a reason TikTok is banned in China. There is a reason the alternate version run in China is not offered as a TikTok alternative in the rest of the world.


Well this is America, not China. We typically don't like to censor the spread of information (or at least the citizens of this country don't)

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124713 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:08 pm to
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We aren’t communist China though.
Perhaps that's why 30% of China's 'Gen Z' females don't suddenly identify as gay?
Perhaps that's why the previously unheard of Drag Queen story hour is suddenly a thing ... but just in the TikTok catchment, not in Douyin regions?
OTOH, Marxism is popular on both platforms.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57529 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:09 pm to
So do you know what a Trojan Horse is?




Have you read the bill and does it have trojan horse traits?


quote:

Its literally in the news headlines, came out of nowhere.
Did the Congressmen callit a Trojan Horse and the media is quoting that?




Im trying trying to figure out why you are shocked about a well know term with a solid definition...

Id be ok if you were freaking the frick out about a term like "Top of mind".
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73296 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Perhaps that's why 30% of China's 'Gen Z' females don't suddenly identify as gay? Perhaps that's why the previously unheard of Drag Queen story hour is suddenly a thing ... but just in the TikTok catchment, not in Douyin regions? OTOH, Marxism is popular on both platforms.


I never said there’s no consequences of freedom just ensuring they don’t take anymore. Idgaf about tiktok, this is a bad bill.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124713 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Well this is America, not China. We typically don't like to censor the spread of information (or at least the citizens of this country don't)
Would we censor Jim Jones and "Apostolic Socialism"?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69426 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:11 pm to
Im not shocked.


I just noticed the trojan horse theme too.


And im saying if Musk tweeted that, its prob why and how it picked up steam to everyone calling it that.


I think more people know musk vs massie.


Your post made it seem like it was only said on here. I was saying, no its all over the media and internet.

And the other guy was saying, i didnt get the memo.


It makes since, your rambling made zero sense.







This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1359 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:12 pm to
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People are not against banning tiktok, it's the vaguely worded bill that gives the government the ability to ban any website they see as a threat that's the issue


Yep.

People with short memories already forget those who were deplatformed and shunned from social media not long ago.

Isn’t a much bigger step to completely shut a site down.
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