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re: What is Trump's plan for inflation and reducing the federal deficit/debt?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Again.. get off your arse, get out and make the changes you want to happen become reality.
Ok, I am starting with you.
You are not starting anything with me. Keep voting LM in. We fully understand what you support. You are fighting conservatives who want Americans put first. You demand they return to the GOPE. Your last post shows that CLEARLY.
It's that simple. It's why you strictly blame Trump.
We all see it.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:44 am to themunch
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Welfare programs tied to Social Security is the problem.
A major one.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:44 am to NC_Tigah
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Irrelevant.
It's completely relevant. The USD will not be devalued without a replacement.
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If the dollar devalues or depreciates
Why your "irrelevant" comment makes no sense. You're making assumptions to frame your argument and ignoring the macro.
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Reserve currency status is a different issue.
Sure, our economic strength, military, GDP output, and ability to purchase goods abroad, etc. also apply.
There is no close 2nd. We saw this during Covid. The USD is so strong in comparison, it flipped your inflation arguments from earlier this thread.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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This thread is not about choice. Responding in that way is a digression at best and a straw man at worst.
Okay let’s return to a discussion about policy. You stated in a recent thread that you voted for Kanye in 2020, did you not?
What were his plans for inflation and reducing the federal deficit/debt? They must have been convincing. What are the plans of the 3rd party candidate you’ll vote for this year for inflation and reducing the deficit:debt?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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Even if you ignore his Covid spending (which caused a large portion of the inflation we've felt since 2021), his pre-Covid spending was on the same trajectory. I believe the largest increase post-Trump is the interest explosion, which, again, is largely due to spending under Trump's watch and the inflation caused by this spending (leading to higher rates, which has caused our interest payments to balloon).
On his campaign website, under Issues, I see no sub-topic on these issues.
Amazing how you parrot the stupid crap MSNBC puts out. The house handles all spendiing bills. The debt rose under Covid because so many blue states (and some red) shut down their economies because of it so less tax revenue. McConnell and Pelosi are the people most responsible for debt spending. Shutting down the government over spending has been made utterly impossible no matter what the reason. I note the graph ends before Biden. Pretty sketchy move by a sketchy individual. Biden ball washer.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:45 am to BCreed1
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LOL! WRONG! There was no MAGA during FDR.
We are discussing support in 2024.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Would be nice to have actual leadership to take care of this shite.
Then stop voting for LM types.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's a terrible phrasing
No it’s not. The whole gist of this thread is “Trumps not a real conservative”. That’s been done already.
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Trump supports leftist economics, like Obama and Biden
So deficit spending is leftist economics? I don’t like I any more than you do but that’s an entire govt problem… not just a Trump problem. Again, show me the Ron Paul candidate that has a chance of winning and I’m with you.
And FWIW I agree that inflation wasn’t caused just by Biden. But I also would argue that decisions made in the midst of the COVID pandemic in 2020 should be weighed differently than decisions made afterward once we realized the world wasn’t ending.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:46 am to kbro
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Okay let’s return to a discussion about policy.
No one has answered the OP yet. They've just rationalized their own cognitive dissonance.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:46 am to RedHog260
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I note the graph ends before Biden. Pretty sketchy move by a sketchy individual. Biden ball washer.
That’s because he’s a leftist masquerading as a “centrist libertarian”.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:47 am to kbro
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Okay let’s return to a discussion about policy. You stated in a recent thread that you voted for Kanye in 2020, did you not?
What were his plans for inflation and reducing the federal deficit/debt? They must have been convincing. What are the plans of the 3rd party candidate you’ll vote for this year for inflation and reducing the deficit:debt?
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This thread is not about choice.
You're just re-shaping your digression/straw man
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:49 am to RedHog260
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The house handles all spendiing bills.
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Amazing how you parrot the stupid crap MSNBC puts out.
Amazing how you parrot the stupidest of NPC talking points.
Spending is negotiated by the House, Senate, and Presidency. Trump had a seat at the table in those negotiations.
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The debt rose under Covid because so many blue states (and some red) shut down their economies because of it so less tax revenue.
could have been avoided with better leadership in the White House and not declaring a national state of emergency and pushing for lockdowns.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, our economic strength, military, GDP output, and ability to purchase goods abroad, etc. also apply.
There is no close 2nd. We saw this during Covid. The USD is so strong in comparison, it flipped your inflation arguments from earlier this thread.
Odd how you don't mention the number of countries turning away from the dollar as a reserve currency or the fact that in three years the dollar has dropped a minimum of 18% in value.
De dollarization
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:50 am to SquatchDawg
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So deficit spending is leftist economics?
In classical economics, deficit spending is bad almost all the time.
In Keynesian economics (Liberal) deficit spending is good when unemployment rises and demand needs to be artificially stimulated.
In Progressive economics, deficit spending is good, even in times of low employment.
Which one are you defending?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:50 am to momentoftruth87
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If this whole thread is some kind of gotcha
100% what it is.
Yep!
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:53 am to SquatchDawg
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So deficit spending is leftist economics?
Uh, yeah.
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but that’s an entire govt problem… not just a Trump problem.
I'll wait for you to jump into every thread about Biden's economy or Biden's inflation to point that out.
It's an entire govt problem...not just a Biden problem!
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But I also would argue that decisions made in the midst of the COVID pandemic in 2020 should be weighed differently than decisions made afterward once we realized the world wasn’t ending.
Well a lot of that was economic recovery aims following actions taken by the Trump admin, at the same time.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's a lie or pure ignorance.
Again, a talking point that only dullards believed.
God forbid the people demand the Federal Gov to do what it stated. You are arguing people should have known better. I'm arguing holding them accountable and not a total theft by the Federal gov.
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If you're not willing to decrease spending in our biggest welfare program,
It's not welfare when it's my money they took. End of that.
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then you're not a serious person with respect to the deficit/debt.
Sure I am. I'm simply not into screwing the American people to get it done when there are other ways.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Trumps is. And youre here approving of it.
Nope and Nope!
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Spending is negotiated by the House, Senate, and Presidency. Trump had a seat at the table in those negotiations.
Very stupid comment. Trump has two options, shut the government down or sign the spending bill. Not exactly a lot of choice. Nancy has run Continuing resolutions for years. In fact we still are.
Trump did not push for lockdown's Fauci did. Blue state governors were the worst of the lot. Covid was put upon us by China and China Joe is mute on the subject as it benefited the steal.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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No one has answered the OP yet. They've just rationalized their own cognitive dissonance
BS
Many have stated that re-electing Trump won’t come with a solution to fix something that no one (politicians or voters) are willing to stomach.
You just said you’ll be voting for a 3rd party candidate. So sight unseen in terms of their plan for inflation and reducing debt, you’re voting 3rd party. Which means helping Biden and keeping the border wide open, trans activism front and center, funneling untold billions to other countries, etc
Like it or not it comes down to choice. It would be amazing if we had leaders who could articulate the importance of fiscal responsibility and lay out a plan to execute it, but most of the population and all of DC would be against them.
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