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re: Putin’s Invasion Had the Opposite Intended Effect - Russia Now Surrounded by NATO
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
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That doesn't make Putin the good actor here though
I never said he was. I hate that having a discussion leads to several here opting for the simple-minded "Putin defender" talking point.
I am fully aware of what Putin is. I am also indifferent to what happens between Russia and Ukraine and want zero American or NATO involvement but the latter is no longer an option since Ukraine will join which will lead to more American involvement.
Russia is not going to walk all over Europe like the fear mongers suggested when this first started. That has always been the excuse for America to fund and be involved. Its a lie.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:42 am to stout
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Russia is not going to walk all over Europe like the fear mongers suggested when this first started.
Did you watch his interview?
Lol
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:44 am to stout
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Russia is not going to walk all over Europe like the fear mongers suggested when this first started. That has always been the excuse for America to fund and be involved. It's a lie.
Agreed. I think most rational people see Putin for what he is - the strongman who was able to control the underbosses from looting Russia completely and therefore has maintained a strong hold on power. Pointing out the deficiencies and inaccuracies in the Western policy doesn't make one a "Putin lover."
Russia today is much different than the Soviet Union. I wonder if our political class still views Russia as the Soviet Union from the Stalin days intent on dominating Europe. They don't possess that power nor have they shown the ambitions to militarily do so. NATO has perhaps somewhat had to invent a new boogeyman after the real Soviet threat collapsed.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:40 am to stout
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hate that having a discussion leads to several here opting for the simple-minded "Putin defender" talking point.
Sure, though there legitimately are people on here who defend Putin or repeat his talking points as fact.
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