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re: So the employee that shot the robber is in custody

Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5741 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:36 am to
Sucky situation. Much as we hate crime, it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing. Whether punching through a barrier to steal some merchandise from a Walgreens or a glass case to steal some jewelry from a jewelry store, it’s not, in that moment, a threat of death or injury to someone. If the employee had moved to physically prevent the theft and the thief then threatened the employee, the analysis would be different.
Posted by olddawginCa
Member since Aug 2023
811 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:46 am to
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 it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing. 


BS!

Sometimes stealing a person's car or other personal property is in effect killing the person who owns that property since the person can no longer do the work necessary to provide for themselves.

That's why in the past a horse thief was hung and looters were shot.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6301 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:47 am to
Well the problem with that is that you are waiting for the thug to use deadly force, at which time it’s too late. If thug is bashing a case violently then how do you know he isn’t fixing to use deadly force? You don’t, therefore it’s appropriate self defense to take action.

The law in DV cases completely follow this logic. A man can put his fist through a wall and be charged with DV, even though he hasn’t touched the woman.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6892 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:59 am to
Should have blown him away before he had an opportunity to leave, then return for his bag.

Dead on the spot, end the guesswork.

Nine bullets make them count.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78747 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:01 am to
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it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing. Whether punching through a barrier to steal some merchandise from a Walgreens or a glass case to steal some jewelry from a jewelry store,


why couldn't the store owner have just waited until he pulled a weapon and shot at him first?

why couldn't he just shoot a warning shot into the air?

:insert video of store employee complying with robber then being shot to death 30 seconds later:
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 11:03 am
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Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33281 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing.


horseshite. I can think of 50 exceptions off the top of my head
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
532 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:11 pm to
Another epically stupid comment. Your mental health condition is noted, seek professional help immediately. If someone is willing to steal in public in front of employees then what other illegal actions is he willing to take? Biden voting moron.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13358 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Sucky situation. Much as we hate crime, it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing. Whether punching through a barrier to steal some merchandise from a Walgreens or a glass case to steal some jewelry from a jewelry store, it’s not, in that moment, a threat of death or injury to someone. If the employee had moved to physically prevent the theft and the thief then threatened the employee, the analysis would be different.



This is dumb, and you should feel dumb. Not only back in the day, when horse thieves and cattle rustlers were summarily lynched, but today, this very moment it is morally and legally justifiable to kill someone for stealing. If you don't believe me, go rob your nearest bank and see if people with guns come after you.

Your narrative is being sold to people who are so dumb they won't question it. It is done because they don't want you protecting your life, liberty, or property by any means necessary. They want you to leave that to the government, so that they get to decide whether your life, liberty, or property are worth defending. Pro tip: None of your possessions are worth defending. But the death penalty is not out of the question if you kick your feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45234 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Much as we hate crime, it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing


Thieves are subhuman scum who should be shot on sight.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12316 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:46 pm to
Never is a long time. To steal a horse was a hanging offense because depriving a man of his transportation could kill him. Today’s equivalent is a car.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39041 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Much as we hate crime, it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing


My property earns income that puts food on the table. If someone is a threat to that, then what choice do I have?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28928 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:34 pm to
How stupid are you?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12112 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing


Is it morally wrong to choke someone to death that was intent on Murder.

That is your democrat/communist position.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141342 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing.


What if I catch you trying to steal one of my other guns?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19150 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Sucky situation. Much as we hate crime, it’s never been morally or legally justifiable to try to kill someone for stealing. Whether punching through a barrier to steal some merchandise from a Walgreens or a glass case to steal some jewelry from a jewelry store, it’s not, in that moment, a threat of death or injury to someone. If the employee had moved to physically prevent the theft and the thief then threatened the employee, the analysis would be different.


Must be a lot of untrained posters giving you the DVs because you are 100% correct. I fully support 2A but the laws do not authorize lethal force for stealing if no threat to person is made. Anyone attending concealed carry training will tell you that.
Posted by Zander Kelley
Member since Jan 2024
346 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:16 pm to
Thank God you're not in charge b/c there would be nothing good left in this country.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2501 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:29 pm to
frick that. Try to rob someone, you deserve to get shot.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
419 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:43 pm to
Ya frick all that. I can think of plenty scenarios where it’s justified in both ways.
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