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re: Suburban owners- do you like it?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:13 am to tiger114
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:13 am to tiger114
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I bought one new last year. I love it. I have always driven Tahoes until now. That extra couple of feet is so useful. Especially with kids.
How was the learning curve driving and parking? That's my hold up some with them.
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:15 am to biglego
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You need a minivan.
We've had 2.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:35 am to biglego
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You need a minivan.
Minivan - and particularly the Sienna - is an excellent buy if you need passenger space but don't need to tow anything or take it off pavement. They've gotten very good, and the Toyota models in particular can run 200,000 miles with minimal repairs. The loaded models aren't cheap, but they are cheaper than an Expedition or Suburban.
If you drive off pavement even just to the hunting clubs around here, you are going to want a real SUV (Suburban, Yukon) or a pickup truck. And unfortunately the minivans can't really tow a damn thing either.
I seriously think that Chevrolet should do a retro version of the Astro van based on an all wheel drive Colorado chassis. It would not be as fuel efficient or as "garage-friendly" as a Sienna, but it would probably out tow pretty much any crossover. People would buy it because it would be a retro box shaped vehicle.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 11:43 am
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:09 pm to NoBoDawg
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How is it a “miss”? Unless you need a Suburban, the Sequoia’s I’ve seen have been a huge upgrade over previous gen. They look fantastic as well & not a mommy mobile herd vehicle like you see at school pickup line.
1. The cargo space is limited by that stupid floor system and you have to basically vertically stack bags in a weird configuration
2. No flat third row fold to alleviate the above
3. They look precisely like a mommy mobile herd vehicle
This obviously isn't just me, practically every review of the Sequoia talks about how bizarre it was for Toyota to wait so long for a redesign and then release something so clearly behind competitors on arguably the #1 or #2 needed feature of families in the market for a full size SUV.
I wanted a Sequoia TBH, like I said we've got a GX and have owned multiple Lexus vehicles. But for those who wanted a viable alternative to a Yukon/Tahoe it falls short in terms of cargo, and it certainly provides nothing to think about for those considering the XL/Suburban.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:12 pm to Billy Blanks
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How was the learning curve driving and parking? That's my hold up some with them.
Any full size SUV is going to take a little getting used to first time. I never found them to be a big deal however and this was long before the 360 degree cameras and park assist buzzing your seat before you back over something.
Look at all the soccer moms driving them for your answer.
Somewhat related; The Sub also has the excellent SuperCruise, hands free driving, available.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:24 pm to Midtiger farm
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They have more trouble with theirs on multiple vehincles plus the suburban has more room/better technology/rides better/ and gets way better gas mileage
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:33 pm to YNWA
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Blonde, trophy wife, moms.
America's greatest natural resource
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:40 pm to BuckyCheese
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Somewhat related; The Sub also has the excellent SuperCruise, hands free driving, available.
It's awesome, and it is auto lane change features are compatible with trailers that you might be pulling. But it's expensive.
A '25 Suburban with the updated 3.0L Duramax (495 lb ft of torque) with that fancy cruise control would be a damn solid highway rig for towing.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:13 pm to greenbean
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sketchy reliability
ol girl is on her 3rd suburban
kept the first 2 for 10 years
first one was a 98’
she has an 18’ now
never had any problems
awesome vehicles…
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:44 pm to BuckyCheese
My wife manages to drive a crew cab long bed when she needs to and hasn't smashed it into anything yet.
Look at the women driving school busses out there. They can all figure out how to handle a suburban.
Look at the women driving school busses out there. They can all figure out how to handle a suburban.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:49 pm to Dissident Aggressor
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ol girl is on her 3rd suburban
kept the first 2 for 10 years
first one was a 98’
she has an 18’ now
never had any problems
awesome vehicles…
Yeah we love our Yukon, which is similar to a Suburban. For weeks I thought the WiFi networking was broken on it and was going to ask the dealer to fix it when I had time. Turns out I was supposed to hit the OnStar button to activate it.
Our next car will probably be another GM full sized SUV. I probably would consider a Ford Expedition or Toyota Sequioa as an alternative after they totally redesign them. The current Ford is a bit dated and doesn't ride as well as the Chevy/GMC trucks. And as much as I like Toyota, they half-assed the design of the Sequioa and really need to make some substantial changes to that thing.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:15 pm to NoBoDawg
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the Sequoia’s I’ve seen have been a huge upgrade over previous gen.
I'm not sure if it was the pandemic/lockdowns impacting the design, but the new one is a huge miss from Toyota. It's not well thought out and needed more time to develop. They should have just updated the old one and kept it around for a few more years while they figure out how to handle the new one.
They did a very good job on the new Tacoma, the Lexus GX, and the new Land Cruiser. The Tundra and Sequoia are both disappointing.
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yes there was definitely teething issues with engine at first
The Toyota waste gate issues with their new turbo motors are overblown, and the engine replacements were mostly impacting the new Tundras. I don't think many SUVs were really seeing those issues, but they didn't hit the market until later.
I would absolutely prefer the 5.7L V8 paired to their new 10 speed, but I don't think the turbo 3.4L V6 they are using is a bad engine at all (at least not in a way that most people would notice before 175,000 miles or so). But I do see how it will be very hard for Toyota dealers to convince buyers to step out of their 5-6 year old V8 model to a new turbo V6 version with less cargo space and a much higher price tag.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:17 pm to XenScott
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Wagoneer L.
This has to be a Mr. Jones of the year candidate. lol. Jeep
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:18 pm to goofball
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Chevrolet should do a retro version of the Astro van
I would buy one tomorrow
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:44 pm to Sev09
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Expedition Max owner here. Definitely more 3rd row legroom, but at the expense of cargo space. The Suburban clearly wins there
It still has a shite load of room for cargo even with all the rows up. I had 5 people and a baby in mine with luggage for a 5 day trip. It was impressive. I love the max's features/size but it is shite reliability. Less than 10,000 miles and already getting warranty work on the transmission.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:11 pm to greenbean
Have had one for two years. I have four kids so needed the space for trips. Like another poster said you there is not another vehicle on the market that has a fully functional third row with enough room behind the third row seat to carry all your luggage. You can tow a boat while doing this also.
Yukons and Tahoes have virtually no space behind the third row seat so you’ll have to have a luggage rack or rack hanging off the back to carry luggage.
My wife didn’t think she would like it but absolutely loves it after her first drive.
Yukons and Tahoes have virtually no space behind the third row seat so you’ll have to have a luggage rack or rack hanging off the back to carry luggage.
My wife didn’t think she would like it but absolutely loves it after her first drive.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:59 pm to Pauldingtiger
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Have had one for two years. I have four kids so needed the space for trips. Like another poster said you there is not another vehicle on the market that has a fully functional third row with enough room behind the third row seat to carry all your luggage. You can tow a boat while doing this also.
Yukons and Tahoes have virtually no space behind the third row seat so you’ll have to have a luggage rack or rack hanging off the back to carry luggage.
My wife didn’t think she would like it but absolutely loves it after her first drive.
My wife is thinking Tahoe. I'm pulling for Suburban. She doesn't think we'll need the space.
The 24 model has more space in them but it's still small imo (Tahoe)
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:25 am to Billy Blanks
I have a 2007 Yukon XL. Familiarity with that engine design and drivetrain design is what led me to a Yukon or Suburban. It had 40k miles on it when I bought it and nothing has surprised me when it needed to be replaced or repaired. It is pushing the 240k mile mark. I’ve done 98% of all repairs. Rebuilding the transmission, replacing the oil pressure sending unit, water pump, alternators, replacing all brake lines, etc. Easy stuff for me to handle on my own. Replacing the dash clusters wasn’t going to happen because they had to be programmed to match the vehicle. Someone else did that.
All in all it’s treated us well. Having an understanding of what issues that make and model had before we bought it eliminated a bunch of frustrations. For the most part the entire vehicle was well within my wheelhouse of what I could fix on my own.
All in all it’s treated us well. Having an understanding of what issues that make and model had before we bought it eliminated a bunch of frustrations. For the most part the entire vehicle was well within my wheelhouse of what I could fix on my own.
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