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re: tAthletic Early Power Rankings: Saints come in at #28

Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:04 pm to
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They had Tom Brady you dumbfrick.

Which gave them a title window.

Exactly.

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No we didnt, we got fricking robbed pussy, what about that dont you get?

You can continue your emotional melt.

I'll remain logical and discuss reality.

The Rams won a title, in the past. We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.

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They “can kicked” and won a title.

Which is fine.

When the window ended, they stopped kicking can, ate shite for a year, and rebuilt their cap situation.

We can kicked and won jack shite. Now we're can kicking and can't even make the playoffs.

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Saints were in great position. And we got screwed.

When did we get screwed out of a title in 2021, 2022, or 2023?

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And the rams are NOT “rebuilding”

Well not as much anymore, considering they made the playoffs and have their cap situation under control.

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Kupp is a great example. He will likely be restructured.

Why? They have like $25M in cap room.

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Just like Saints did with MT

We restructured MT to get under the cap.

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No they didnt. They had Tom Brady

And ate shite cap-wise due to his dead cap.

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and replaced him with Baker

Bargain basement QB shopping while in cap hell.

And they made the playoffs.

We overpaid for a similar QB and are in worse cap hell and failed to make the playoffs. Who was smarter in 2023?

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They are going to pay him. Placing the Bucs in the EXACT same boat as the Saints.

Wrong. We were in cap hell and signed Carr.

They have $33.7M in cap room. They may choose to use some of this on Baker, but that's within a completely different cap scenario (Being $50M+ above the cap and signing a QB).

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These teams are in the same BOAT as the Saints.

After both made the playoffs, here are the cap situations of all 3:

Bucs: $33.7M in cap room. $0.2M in dead cap
Rams: $23.7M in cap room. $0.7M in dead cap

Saints: $87.8M over the cap. $2.8M in dead cap (as of today)

Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please.

OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".

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Stafford is older and def a mid tier QB and the Rams have bad contracts overcome.

Easy to do when you're under the cap. I already said they're way under the cap with their QB, WR1, and HOF DI under contract (no smoke and mirrors).

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If Donald retires, he’s their RRamcyzk.

No. Again, they're under the cap.

Also if he retires, they will gain $0.6M in cap room today. They could kick can and do it after June 1 and get $16.6M in cap room this year and push some into 2025 (no clue why they'd do this).

If Ram retires pre-June 1, he has a net $5.6M cap hit. That means we would end up about $93M over the cap if we had to do it this way. Also, more importantly, we lose his contract as a piggy bank to kick can, which is a big deal.

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The Bucs and Packers (and Panthers, Cardinals, Titans, Texans, Vikings) in particular were not selling out for a championship.

Bucs already did

Vikings tried to but I imagine may give it up this year. They're interesting. They could pull a Saints and triple down, but it would likely cost them Jordan Jefferson, so it's unlikely they go this route.

Packers had to deal their franchise QB b/c he demanded it. Losing a QB is one way to get a huge dead cap.

The Texans had cap room and dealt Cooks for value. They are rebuilding. They had cap room, so dead cap is largely irrelevant. Now they have $58M in cap room to spend with a QB 1 and playoff appearance (more than we have had in 3 years).

Panthers, Cardinals, and Titans are not well-run franchises. If you want to be like them, then you're no fan.

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The Saints have been doing that well for a LONGTIME now.

Except the past 3 years, which is the window everyone is discussing.
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