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True Detective S1E5: Did Rust kill off Ginger before arriving at the cookhouse?

Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12799 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:16 pm
Doing a rewatch and I noticed a huge plot hole in episode 5.

After all the drama that went down in the previous episode and Ginger finding out that “Crash” was a rat, I feel that leaves a giant question mark about what Rust did with him.

In first thought it was just a simple knock him out and leave him stranded on the side of the road.

However, on the rewatch I noticed Rust told Marty that Ginger was “Wrapped up in a ditch.” After being asked what happened to him.

Sure, he had him bound in duct tape, but it gives the feeling Rust offed him and left him somewhere. The only thing that debunks this in my mind is Rust was in a hurry and didn’t have time to bury him.

However, leaving him alive seems like a huge misstep in keeping himself and Marty safe. Ginger now has intel on him, has seen Marty’s face, and could lead his gang to eventually piece it all together.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34510 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:47 pm to
I thought about that at the time, but maybe the motorcycle gang would never piece it together considering they only knew him by his undercover name, plus Ginger likely would never spill the beans to anyone about what he’d done.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15774 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:15 pm to
Yea he had no clue who Crash was in the real world. And Ginger was a wanted man for the Beaumont shite. His move was to STFU for a few years.

Good question, OP.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3350 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:01 pm to
I commented on this in a different thread. It could go either way. But hypothetically, Ginger just lead a man to the only meth cook for the Iron Crusaders. Add in the botched smash and grab job in the projects and he should have gotten as far away from Texas as possible.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47980 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:53 pm to
“I embrace the outlaw lifestyle”
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37606 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

thought about that at the time, but maybe the motorcycle gang would never piece it together considering they only knew him by his undercover name, plus Ginger likely would never spill the beans to anyone about what he’d done.


Weren’t Marty and Rust in every newspaper in the state and probably east Texas after they “solved the murders” the first go around?
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34510 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:09 pm to
Yes. That’s a legitimate point. I also thought about that.

Maybe no one wanted to bring up that they all got flim-flammed.

Maybe the biker gang has a high turnover rate.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12799 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

I embrace the outlaw lifestyle”


The quote that keeps me in the Rust does bad shite camp is.

“The world needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door”

Seems like his way of justifying how he handles every situation.
Posted by PassGassed
Member since Mar 2021
537 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:18 pm to
Whatever happened to the people Rust made kill themselves? Besides that they killed themselves



What was that about in terms of plot
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19411 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:25 am to
< You Rang
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15774 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Whatever happened to the people Rust made kill themselves? Besides that they killed themselves What was that about in terms of plot


Smokescreen from the writers to have the audience thinking Rust could possibly be the killer. He told the girl in prison that jail wasn’t kind to baby killers and she should kill herself if given the opportunity. Rust was just burned out.

This parallels the pharmacy fiend in jail killing himself. The guy that told him they didn’t catch the Yellow King. However, what a lot of people overlooked is the fact that one of the guards on duty the night the guy killed himself was named Childress. They say his name. So it’s implied he was connected to the ring and gave the Pharmacy Fiend the means to off himself in jail.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 11:07 am
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