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If Corey Raymond didn’t recruit ANY of these players
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:23 am
Eugene
Loston -2011
Brandon Taylor 2011
Francois
Pat Peterson
Ron Brooks 2011
Mo Claiborne 2011
Eric Reid 2011
TM7 2011
Tharold Simon 2011
Dexter Alexander
Martin 2011
Jalen Collins
Jalen Mills
Dwayne Thomas
Derrick Stingley
Ricks
why is he considered the best choice as an elite recruiter?
Loston -2011
Brandon Taylor 2011
Francois
Pat Peterson
Ron Brooks 2011
Mo Claiborne 2011
Eric Reid 2011
TM7 2011
Tharold Simon 2011
Dexter Alexander
Martin 2011
Jalen Collins
Jalen Mills
Dwayne Thomas
Derrick Stingley
Ricks
why is he considered the best choice as an elite recruiter?
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:26 am to Tiger1988
Just let Kelly pick his guy.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:28 am to Tiger1988
I mean Corey recruited
1. Stingley
2. Ricks
3. Jamal Adams
4. Fulton
5. Boutte
6. tre white
7. Donte Jackson
8. Delpit
9. Godchaux
10. Greedy
11. McGlothern
12. Queen
13. Jay Ward
14. Flott
15. Russell Gage
16. Rashard Robinson
His last couple of years weren't great, but Orgeron was running things into the ground.
1. Stingley
2. Ricks
3. Jamal Adams
4. Fulton
5. Boutte
6. tre white
7. Donte Jackson
8. Delpit
9. Godchaux
10. Greedy
11. McGlothern
12. Queen
13. Jay Ward
14. Flott
15. Russell Gage
16. Rashard Robinson
His last couple of years weren't great, but Orgeron was running things into the ground.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 11:30 am
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:32 am to Tiger1988
Definitely recruited Derrick Stingley. Loston 2009
Brandon Taylor 2008
Ron Brooks 2008
Mo Claiborne 2009
Eric Reid 2010
Tharold Simon 2010
TM7 2010
Brandon Taylor 2008
Ron Brooks 2008
Mo Claiborne 2009
Eric Reid 2010
Tharold Simon 2010
TM7 2010
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:43 am to Tiger1988
Eli Ricks, class of 2020, List the elite corner backs since then he has recruited and landed.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:13 pm to Tiger1988
Dude, we get it. You don’t like Raymond/ don’t think he’s worthy of the job. Move on.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:55 pm to Tiger1988
Because he’s not what you suggest here. He helped recruit those players. I personally don’t think he sucks as a recruiter as bad as he does as a position coach. However, with micro management he can be serviceable. Bottom line we can do way better.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 12:56 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
Eugene
Jai? He's been waving that towel for decades it feels like.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:10 pm to Tiger1988
Tiger1988
Some of those count not have been recruited by Raymond. He was at Nebraska and Utah from 2009-2011.
Some of those count not have been recruited by Raymond. He was at Nebraska and Utah from 2009-2011.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:09 pm to Tiger1988
I think Raymond is in play, because college football is changing...
House very well may have been a good defensive coordinator, with great ideas. He might have been trying to implement complex, advanced schemes that work in the NFL.
The problem is that in the NFL, you sign a core group of players, and build upon that core for a few years. It might take 1-2 years for players to grasp it, and then they're solid- and you replace pieces 1 or 2 at a time, always keeping the overall unit largely intact.
You could do this in college a few years ago, before the transfer portal was a thing. You bring in freshmen and groom them, and by the time they're juniors or redshirt sophomores, they're ready.
In theory, if you do that at a program with a higher grade of recruits (LSU for example), in a couple seasons you have an elite defensive machine, way better than somewhere like Iowa (who does that with 3 star guys). You would have 1st rd talent at corner, instead of filler guys who just knew the system inside out.
The portal destroys that. If you're a stud recruit, you don't want to sit 2 years, so you transfer somewhere you get playing time. So that defensive unit never gels, and you have to keep finding replacements. And the guy who transfers in during the spring, he isn't going to be able to run that complex defense, he will get lost constantly. He might be gifted enough to still make some plays, but mentally he will be confused as hell.
So the answer is to get rid of the defensive mastermind coach; you bring in the recruiting guy. You load up on talent, and you run a basic scheme. Anyone can play, and you then are free to stick the most talented guys in, even if they're green. It won't be as complex, and it won't have the highest potential ceiling, but it will always have the top talent so you won't ever be "bad".
House very well may have been a good defensive coordinator, with great ideas. He might have been trying to implement complex, advanced schemes that work in the NFL.
The problem is that in the NFL, you sign a core group of players, and build upon that core for a few years. It might take 1-2 years for players to grasp it, and then they're solid- and you replace pieces 1 or 2 at a time, always keeping the overall unit largely intact.
You could do this in college a few years ago, before the transfer portal was a thing. You bring in freshmen and groom them, and by the time they're juniors or redshirt sophomores, they're ready.
In theory, if you do that at a program with a higher grade of recruits (LSU for example), in a couple seasons you have an elite defensive machine, way better than somewhere like Iowa (who does that with 3 star guys). You would have 1st rd talent at corner, instead of filler guys who just knew the system inside out.
The portal destroys that. If you're a stud recruit, you don't want to sit 2 years, so you transfer somewhere you get playing time. So that defensive unit never gels, and you have to keep finding replacements. And the guy who transfers in during the spring, he isn't going to be able to run that complex defense, he will get lost constantly. He might be gifted enough to still make some plays, but mentally he will be confused as hell.
So the answer is to get rid of the defensive mastermind coach; you bring in the recruiting guy. You load up on talent, and you run a basic scheme. Anyone can play, and you then are free to stick the most talented guys in, even if they're green. It won't be as complex, and it won't have the highest potential ceiling, but it will always have the top talent so you won't ever be "bad".
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