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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:16 am to
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:16 am to
They look fine. Could potentially be getting a little bit too much water or in heavier soil. I find that peppers' leaves curl upward like that and yellow/drop when they're too wet. They don't look bad though so I wouldn't worry about it. Just wait for some warmer nighttime weather as others have said.

My garden is rocking and rolling but for the watermelons and cantaloupes. They're coming on slow but need some warmer temps. Hoping the weather today doesn't screw anything up.

Also, not sold on the Florida weave trellis yet for the tomatoes. It's kind of a pain in the arse to keep up with. I have three indeterminate plants between each stake and I'm running lines every 6-8" or so, though I've recently leaned more towards 6". The cherry varieties that aren't heavily pruned look like they're going to be a mess. I think I'll try to keep my bigger beefsteaks to 2-3 main stems so they don't overwhelm the lines and crowd each other.

Don't hate it yet, but still TBD. Dwarf plants are happy in their cages.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81763 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:13 pm to
Good thing I went home for lunch. Two of my pots and one of my raised beds were flooded due to clogged drains.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14824 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:19 pm to
I hope everyone fared well today with the bad weather this morning. We had a tornado pass through the northern portion of my neighborhood. Luckily property damage was minimal. I was at work and my wife and kids were at home. I lost contact with them for over an hour and was a nervous wreck. They were hunkered down in the bathtub in my kids bathroom. We were without power for almost 12 hours. But praise be to God they are ok!

I made sure to tie up as much as I could in the garden yesterday. Had some branches break off of some of the tomato plants. But everything survived except for one sunflower.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2758 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:16 pm to
Scary stuff, glad they're okay.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5523 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:36 pm to
Sorry to hear that buddy. That makes for a stressful day. We got absolutely dumped on here in Covington, but thankfully no tornadoes. I heard Slidell got it pretty bad but honestly I was so busy at work today I didn’t really have time to read about what went on over there.

My garden made it out fine. Cilantro plant blew over a little, but it looks like everything else did okay. My cucumbers are starting to climb. Will try to take some updated photos this weekend.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12873 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:39 am to
i think he wanted to post a picture with weeds in it.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5523 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:06 am to
Here are some update photos of my situation:

Tomatoes on the Florida weave. L-R, sungold, sweet million, big beef>



Little big beefs:



Opposite side Florida weave. R-L, chocolate sprinkles, cherokee purple, big beef:



Dwarfs. R-L Fred's tie dye, wild fred, arctic rose (I think).



Peppers. Cucumbers on the front right. Cantaloupes on the back right:



Little Gypsy pepper:



Tromboncino squash in the front left, watermelons in back left. Tiger zucchini and Zephyr squash over on the right in the cages:



Here's a good comparison of a topped pepper plant v. a non-topped pepper plant. These plants are both Carmens. The plant on the left was topped when it had 6 true leaves as a seedling. The plant on the right was not topped. The plant on the left probably has 10-12 flowers on it. The one on the right has 4. I expect the one on the right will make bigger peppers, but the one on the left will make a lot more. Carmens are about as big of a fruiting plant that I like to top. I find if you top bell peppers or the larger bull horn varieties, the fruit size suffers too much. I top all of my smaller fruiting varieties.



Topped:



Not topped:

Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
215 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:13 am to
I always think my stuff is doing pretty good, then I get on here and see how y'all's are doing.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9432 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:24 pm to
Blue when did you plant out? Everything is huge and beautiful!
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36937 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:37 pm to
I had a broken pepper plant and my sunflower garden was inundated with water. Sunflowers were looking great but the water saw them all fall.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5523 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:01 pm to
Thanks man. Hopefully everything keeps doing well. Just hit everything with some peroxide since we’re starting to dry out. I planted out on March 12. Started pepper seeds January 3. Tomatoes January 16. I direct sowed all the cucumbers, squash, zucchini, and melons around March 20.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 8:01 pm
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9432 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:40 pm to
About the same here, I was a week later probably. Mine just aren’t as full and big yet. Started fertilizing yet? I put out calcium nitrate last weekend, first fertilizer after planting.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5523 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:31 am to
I just did the same. Calcium nitrate + a soaking with Texas Tomato Food.

I put bone meal, epsom salt, calcium nitrate, and tomato tone in the planting hole. I also amended with worm castings right before plant out.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1986 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:33 am to
anyone hear of or use the "back to eden" gardening method? basically its no till, but instead of using hay you use wood chips. i just came across it from a FB gardening group and it makes sense, but not sure if it would work in south La with the amount of moisture we get. the mulch in my garden bed tends to mold over, but i guess technically if i was out there tending to it daily like my veggie garden i could turn the top layer of wood chips so it doesnt do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rPPUmStKQ4

Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14824 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:47 am to
quote:

"back to eden" gardening method?


It was a big inspiration for me years ago. I did the wood chips thing for a long time but it attracted termites, roaches, and other insects. You could use cypress mulch because the termites don't bother with it, but then you are contributing to the harvesting of cypress trees that are important to wildlife habitats. I still use some cypress mulch in my garden but I keep it to a minimum. Only really use it in my walking paths. Eventually I just switched completely over to pine straw and that has actually worked the best. It's better at weed prevention, and it breaks down faster which is beneficial if it gets mixed into the top layer of soil. It won't tie up the nitrogen like wood chips will if they get mixed into the soil.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1986 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:01 am to
i was thinking of getting pine straw, where do you get it? i never see it at the box stores. i only really need enough to cover an 8' X 4' area so i guess it wouldnt be that much.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12892 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:09 am to
Pretty much what I do. Pine straw on the rows, chips over cardboard in between. 2 rows left with heavy fabric and just holes for the plants. At some point I’ll remove them, as the rest of the row sees no benefit of the mulching effort.

Wife did send me some pics the other day. Interesting developments on my experiment on 2 rows of tomatoes. Same plants, from same trays down each row, one row organic, the other not so much. Buried fish heads under one row, they are struggling. Naturally I watch an episode of epic gardening the other night and they did it last year with various scraps in each hole. The one with the fish heads looked just like mine, scraggly, stunted and leaves a pale green to yellow.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17683 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:04 am to
I sort of do that. Pretty much no-till with chopped leaves and/or grass clippings. I use stuff that breaks down slowly like oak leaves in the pathways. I also use thin cardboard or brown paper on the bed to stop weeds, with chopped leaves or clippings on top. Idea is to build soil health. I broadfork to help with compaction.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14824 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

i was thinking of getting pine straw, where do you get it?


My local garden center carries both round and square bales of it. The round bales are bigger. I have also seen these at Home Depot. LINK
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81763 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:07 am to
The Brussels Sprouts I planted last year are actually starting to show the sprouts. I'll let them keep going and see what happens.
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