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Explain to me how body shops “work” these days

Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted by JackieSonnier
South Crowley
Member since Nov 2023
359 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:44 pm
So my husband “no pics” was rear ended a couple days ago. So I brought his truck to a local body shop to get an estimate. Upon arrival they asked if it was an insurance claim to which I replied yes. Once I gave that information I was told that they couldn’t quote the repair job that they will need to see the paperwork and claim number the insurance gave me and they can take it from there. I was told that all the body shops use the same “system” that’s it’s not like it used to be with shopping around for quotes. Can someone explain this to a lady? I feel like I’m dealing with a car salesman. This is no hole in the wall repair shop… they have a reputable business.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10955 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:46 pm to
Wait until they tell you how long before they can get to actually doing the repair! I am dealing with this now as well..
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62150 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

So my husband “no pics”


Why do you tease us like this?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17943 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

So my husband “no pics” was rear ended a couple days ago


bet
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8685 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

So my husband “no pics” was rear ended a couple days ago.


I don't care what he does in his free time.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
6008 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
it all comes down to money. insurance is only going to pay for they feel like is necessary probably because a lot of body shops got greedy and started charging for irrelevant things and insurance was losing their arse off
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45274 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:49 pm to
Last time I got my truck fixed thru insurance I just took it to the shop I use for everything else and gave them the claim info.

They handled it all from there. Initial adjuster quoted like $2200 in repairs, shop found another $7-$8k in damages once it got in and got it all done thru the insurance no issues.

This was a comprehensive claim after tornado damage. Don’t know if that matters.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56250 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:50 pm to
IDK but would probably just take the guy for his word and hand over the insurance paperwork and see what he says


Is this like Doctors being "in network" w/ your health insurance co.?
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80202 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:51 pm to
I would consider creating a new user and not using your actual full name on here
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9076 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:53 pm to
It’s because the shop you chose is probably part of your carriers repair program. Each carrier has agreed pricing with the shop (normally for the labor rates).

They want your claim number because they are going to handle directly with your carrier. Their estimate will be at your carriers agreed rates. If they wrote an estimate for your now it would probably be at the higher shop rates and would not be valid for your carrier.

Insurance companies also don’t let you shop around. They pay off their approved estimate or the agreed shop estimate.

Basically the shop told you that you are wasting their time and your time until you give them the claim/carrier info.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by LazyDaveD
Broussard, LA
Member since Sep 2003
1101 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:54 pm to
My buddy owns a body shop, he'll turn down jobs if they aren't insurance. He can't fully know the damage until he starts tearing the car apart, and people are unwilling to pay for repairs that aren't quoted upfront. Insurance will.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4281 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't care what he does in his free time.




stout is looking into it though
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19037 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Upon arrival they asked if it was an insurance claim to which I replied yes. Once I gave that information I was told that they couldn’t quote the repair job that they will need to see the paperwork and claim number the insurance gave me and they can take it from there.


The days of a body shop owner walking out and giving a quick 15 minute estimate are long gone even with small collisions. Estimates now take hours to compute using Mitchell/CCC estimating software.

The insurance estimate gives them a baseline to start with. With modern cars, there are too many very expensive electronics, sensors, etc. to just look at a car and guess. Additional damage is found almost every time once the body tech starts taking the car apart. Many times, the body shop will have to do a supplement to get additional money.


Posted by JackieSonnier
South Crowley
Member since Nov 2023
359 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:56 pm to
Lol did my transition glasses turn you on?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
82713 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:56 pm to
My wife's car has been in a body shop for 2 months due to hail damage. It's been a fricking nightmare.
Posted by Specktricity
Lafayette
Member since May 2011
1344 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:59 pm to
He wants the insurance adjuster to do his job first. Contact your insurance and have them start the claims process. They will tell you what needs to be fixed and how much they will pay for it. Then you bring it to the body shop.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain this to a lady? I feel like I’m dealing with a car salesman.


well because you are, and they are 100% worse then shady used car salesmen

you said the magic word to make the cash register ring when you said insurance claim.

right then and there something they might have charged you $3500 to fix, turned into a $5000 repair.

try contacting them again and say its not going to be an insurance claim so just give you a quote. if they wont do that, then tell them you will make arrangement to have it removed from their parking lot.

such as with most things in life, one wrong word can send you down the wrong path.

is this something you will pay for or is it an insurance claim? if its an insurance claim then they wont even want to talk to you about it since its just between them and insurance company, and the insurance company often gets to decide who fixes it for you.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9076 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

He wants the insurance adjuster to do his job first.

Eh. Very few shops are not part of a program/select service/service first/Xpress/Repair Network etc. shop.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19037 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

My wife's car has been in a body shop for 2 months due to hail damage. It's been a fricking nightmare.


Hail damage should be a paint only repair and should be a quick turnaround in any shop. Most shop delays I'm seeing are due to parts availability. I know parts guys who spend all day online shopping small town dealerships all over the country looking for simple parts.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9076 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:07 pm to
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and the insurance company often gets to decide who fixes it for you.


Completely untrue. It’s called Steering and is illegal in almost all states.
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