re: Clipper's owner Ballmer is set to make $1 billion annually from Microsoft dividends

Are we trying to say that he didn’t earn that money? Microsoft is ubiquitous in all facets of life, take Microsoft Word for example, it works like shite but we all forced to use it when writing documents.

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Are we trying to say that he didn’t earn that money? Microsoft is ubiquitous in all facets of life, take Microsoft Word for example, it works like shite but we all forced to use it when writing documents.

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He earned the money only by having money at the beginning, which credit to him for having that money in college I guess.

But he knew/knows nothing about the tech he oversaw.

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But he knew/knows nothing about the tech he oversaw.

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Ballmer also constructed the company's $20 billion Enterprise Business, consisting of new products and services such as Exchange, Windows Server, SQL Server, SharePoint, System Center, and Dynamics CRM, each of which initially faced an uphill battle for acceptance but have emerged as leading or dominant in each category.

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He had several misses but those products make obscene amounts of money for MSFT.

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Again, he has held Microsoft back and his lack of foresight is a big reason why Apple got back into the game, and passed up Microsoft in a lot aspects, in the 2000's.

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There are a lot of “what ifs” during his time with Microsoft but Apple got back into the game when they brought Steve Jobs back into the fold and revamped the MacBook lineup and a line of products that eventually led to the iPhone.

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I think it's around $25 billion in total payments. I don't really understand giving that much money to shareholders, sure seems they'd be better putting that to use back in the company, no?

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That's the way it used to be. Reinvest in the company and pay your workers a good wage.

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Yeah and go look at Ballmer's thoughts on how portable computing was just a fad when the iphone came out.

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Definitely one of his big whiffs but chasing general public dollars is incredibly hard compared to selling to businesses. What email program is used most in offices?

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Instead he thought the money was in Windows Vista.

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Was an absolute turd since it was so hardware intensive (compared to XP) but several features remained in Windows 7. Windows Server on the other hand was wildly successful in almost complete contrast with PC Windows.

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I've never seen someone try to "yeah but" all of his failures like this in my life.

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Steve has come out and said that Vista was his biggest regret. Everyone wants to shite on him but they sold more than IBM and Google during his time as CEO.

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Because Microsoft was the standard for office computing. He had nothing to do with the innovation to get the company to that point.

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He was a business manager and started with the company in 1980, he is not a tech guy at all.

Is this what you’re referring to as him not being a good CEO?

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In a May 2012 column in Forbes magazine, Adam Hartung described Ballmer as "the worst CEO of a large publicly traded American company", saying he had "steered Microsoft out of some of the fastest growing and most lucrative tech markets (mobile music, headsets and tablets)".

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Mobile music players are dead, headsets are dead and tablets are also dead even with Microsoft still pushing the Surface under Satya Nadella with their partnership with the NFL.

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bad93ex

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You are definitely Steve Ballmer.

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Regular people can buy Microsoft stock as well and make $0.75 a share for doing nothing. I encourage people to consider it.

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I too own shares

Just a few less shares than Ballmer