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re: Shellenberger on how absurd claims of a J6 coup was - and remains

Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4699 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
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When the media serve as handmaidens for those in power, we get less scrutiny of policies that we later come to regret – such as excessive COVID-19 policies like school shutdowns and the Iraq war.

Welcome to the mass media of today. Thank God for alternative media sources and the internet.
Posted by Pimp Daddy Freeze
Member since Dec 2023
18 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:58 pm to
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RedHog260


Ok Trump voter. Go wipe off your makeup and read a book
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19705 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:59 pm to
He told no lies
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36295 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 4:17 pm to
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You think Biden is a fascist? 

Big government colluding with big business to pick winners and losers in business and society. We saw this with the Covid lockdowns and the leftist worship of big pharma when it came to vaccine mandates. We also have judicial cases establishing the Biden administration has been conspiring with big tech companies to censor information it didn't like. And lastly, the main political opposition to the current President is facing 91 indictments, all being levied by the President's DOJ or his political allies. So yes, Biden is doing precisely what fascist governments do.
Posted by Pimp Daddy Freeze
Member since Dec 2023
18 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Big government colluding with big business to pick winners and losers in business and society


Then elect better representatives who understand this fact instead of waste of spaces like Gary Palmer or Mike Johnson.

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And lastly, the main political opposition to the current President is facing 91 indictments, all being levied by the President's DOJ or his political allies.


Because he is a criminal who had his moronic followers attack our government based upon lies to told. The first ever non-peaceful transition of power in America history. All Because of a con-man and his fragile ego.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36295 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Because he is a criminal who had his moronic followers attack our government based upon lies to told. 

This is what he actually said you brainwashed liar:
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I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

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The first ever non-peaceful transition of power in America history.

This is also a lie. And to somehow suggest that a couple hundred protesters who entered the Capitol (almost all of whom were unarmed) somehow threatened the transfer of power is patently absurd. It's so hyperbolic that you lose what little credibility you had.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21793 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 4:33 pm to
Pimpsaddy is just trying to push buttons. Reminds of my son when he was a pissed off teenager .
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58252 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 4:42 pm to
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It's so hyperbolic that you lose what little credibility you had.



From day one, every Dem. politician and MSM outlet was told to use the term,” insurrection” to describe the events of Jan. 6th. That’s because those that helped plan and orchestrate it, like the FBI, Pelosi, etc., knew in advance they would use the 14 amendment and its terminology to try and make Trump ineligible to run.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Thank God for alternative media sources and the internet.
That very thought has crossed my mind.

am considering subscribing to a podcast or two - and yes, thanks to God for its availability.

Glenn Greenwald is superb -
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1988 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 10:19 pm to
American citizens welcomed into the capitol --- insurrectionist sentenced to 1-20yeats in prison.

Illegal immigrants, illegally crossing into the United States, welcomed by the govt, given $5k, cellphone, luxury hotel, and free transportation to their chosen destination.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2313 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 11:03 pm to
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To add no Trump supporter wanted to disrupt what was happening in congress that day, the invocation of the Electoral Act of 1887 which would have led to an investigation of various states election practices.


That is NOT what was going to happen, which is why the Trump supporters went to the Capitol in the first place. Congress certainly didn't have the votes to reject any electoral votes, and Pence had already made clear he did not believe he had the power to to send Electoral votes to the States.

So, yeah, Trump supporters definitely wanted to let Congress know they did not approve of what was about to happen.

Trump was urging his supporters to go to the Capitol to voice their disapproval.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2313 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 11:04 pm to
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That’s because those that helped plan and orchestrate it, like the FBI, Pelosi, etc., knew in advance they would use the 14 amendment and its terminology to try and make Trump ineligible to run.


They didn't think they could just successfully impeach him?
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8964 posts
Posted on 12/23/23 at 11:23 pm to
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RedHog260


That dog’ll hunt, brother.

Hit the nail on the head!
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
510 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Ok Trump voter. Go wipe off your makeup and read a book


Awwwww hurt the little Biden depends sniffer's little feelings. Outstanding!
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
510 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:23 pm to
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You think Biden is a fascist? Projecting a bit too much.

It's so damn funny the "Lock her up" crowd is mad that their con-man is being brought to justice.


Biden is certainly a fascist. As for Hillary she should most certainly have been locked up. Her unsecured server was and is probably the biggest leak of classified information in the history of America. She then destroyed the server. Nothing anyone else has ever done compares to this.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
510 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:29 pm to
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That is NOT what was going to happen, which is why the Trump supporters went to the Capitol in the first place. Congress certainly didn't have the votes to reject any electoral votes, and Pence had already made clear he did not believe he had the power to to send Electoral votes to the States.

So, yeah, Trump supporters definitely wanted to let Congress know they did not approve of what was about to happen.

Trump was urging his supporters to go to the Capitol to voice their disapproval.


Who tells you this incredible lie? Why is it you simpletons are so easy to make fools of. Here a link to the congressional record of the proceedings on J6. The facts are that the Electoral Act of 1887 was satisfied with the signature of two members of congress, a rep from the House and a senator from the Senate.

J6 congressional record

Again the Electoral Count Act of 1887

Electoral Act of 1887
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:31 pm to
Stopped reading here:
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the January 6 riot, it was largely the result of security failures

If Trump hadn't incited the mob, there would have been no security failures.

It was an unlawful attempt by Trump to maintain power after being voted out of office by interfering with Congress' business of peacefully transferring power at the executive level.

Trump took an oath to protect the Constitution, and then violated that oath.

The funny thing is, 20 years from now, you will find precious few willing to admit to voting for Trump.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
510 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:42 pm to
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If Trump hadn't incited the mob, there would have been no security failures.

It was an unlawful attempt by Trump to maintain power after being voted out of office by interfering with Congress' business of peacefully transferring power at the executive level.

Trump took an oath to protect the Constitution, and then violated that oath.

The funny thing is, 20 years from now, you will find precious few willing to admit to voting for Trump.


So in watching the complete speech Trump made that day there was no incitement noted. How stupid are you to think that a minor three hour riot could force a remain in power state for Trump? Outline for me how that could work. Exactly how could a permitted rally at the capital possibly violate any oath to the Constitution Trump made? As for admitting having voted for Trump I can find very few of the estimated but not verified 81 million Biden voters who will admit they did so. Why is this?
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2208 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:43 pm to
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when it was obvious the day it happened


It was obvious the night before when we saw them bussing in Antifa to the Teamsters union hall.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99491 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:43 pm to
Pimp Daddy Freeze is our latest alter.
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