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re: Palestinian Deaths
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:30 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:30 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
You're completely gone, mate
Are you trolling from Britain or Australia?
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:31 am to TDFreak
Whatever their number is, add it to the deaths in Israel from the massacre and call it “Deaths Hamas is responsible for”
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:33 am to VOR
quote:I agree. Totally awful. Too bad Hamas won’t just surrender and save some lives.
From independent reports, it appears the death toll is awful, regardless of the precise number.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:38 am to TDFreak
There's a lot of children getting blownt up and that's something I'd like more effort to be taken to avoid whether its in Gaza, Israel, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc.
Yes, Oct 7th was unacceptable and there's basically no real solution to the problem, but its not a license to just do whatever you want, or at least it wouldn't be if it were any other Western democracy.
Blind obedience to Israel is bizarre from people that are constantly getting played by them. Unless of course you're happy with Biden's cabinet, Epstein, Blackrock, NBC, Disney, NY Times, Pfizer, Zelensky, Trump judges, Guiliani Judge, etc. I guess they're just that crafty.
Yes, Oct 7th was unacceptable and there's basically no real solution to the problem, but its not a license to just do whatever you want, or at least it wouldn't be if it were any other Western democracy.
Blind obedience to Israel is bizarre from people that are constantly getting played by them. Unless of course you're happy with Biden's cabinet, Epstein, Blackrock, NBC, Disney, NY Times, Pfizer, Zelensky, Trump judges, Guiliani Judge, etc. I guess they're just that crafty.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:41 am to TDFreak
quote:
I agree. Totally awful. Too bad Hamas won’t just surrender and save some lives.
Has Israel ever said that they would stop if Hamas surrendered and returned all the hostages?
Honest question, because it seems like the game plan here is to make things so bad that the international community takes them as refugees.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:45 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
The real answer?
Don't care.
Don't start nothin', won't BE nohtin'.
FAFO
Where I'm at. Don't care the #. If the region cares so much they should bring them into their own borders, otherwise I don't care about their crocodile tears.
At this point I say Israel needs to do whatever it takes to turn Gaza into a sweet beach resort region.
Gazans and their terroristic ways can get bent with their cult leader for all I care. Zero cares for people that will kill me if they had a chance.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:49 am to RealityWinsOut
Israel tells the Palestinians where the bomb will fall. Hamas won’t allow the people to leave.
So who is to blame for the civilian deaths???
So who is to blame for the civilian deaths???
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:53 am to bird35
And why I don't care what happens as they bring it up on themselves. I ain't gots no time fo dat cares.
Sucks but in the long run clearing house will be better for the world.
Sucks but in the long run clearing house will be better for the world.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:54 am to TDFreak
quote:
Honest question: Do we believe the Palestinian Heath Department reports of 20,000 deaths?
No.
I’m sure it’s a lot, thousands.
But not 20K.
This post was edited on 12/22/23 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:57 am to RealityWinsOut
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:01 am to VOR
"From independent reports, it appears the death toll is awful, regardless of the precise number."
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Sir, how dare you post something reasonable, meaningful and un-biased on this site. The nerve!
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Sir, how dare you post something reasonable, meaningful and un-biased on this site. The nerve!
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:21 am to BeepNode
We pay for a lot of things I don't care for so if occasionally we pay for something I'm ok with then I'm good with that magic.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:34 am to TrueTiger
quote:Oh I am sure that there are people walking all around with clipboards
Is anyone asking about the details behind that number.
How many were Hamas combatants?
How many were assisting Hamas?
How many were civilian non-combatant non-collaborator?
How many were killed by Hamas friendly fire?
in a genocide zone
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:37 am to TDFreak
If you consider the population density of Gaza and have paid any attention to the level of destruction 20k casualties is completely believable.
Given Hamas has penchant for using human shields and the amount of ordinance the IDF has brought to bear on that relatively small area 20k does not seem unusually high. When you consider how Hamas has morphed since being voted into power it amplifies the tragic loss of civilian life however it is a tragedy of their own making even if everyone didn't make the choice and many more thought they were making a different choice. If you put a country and a people into an existential crisis you can't expect a kinder gentler ROE especially when the terrorists stand behind you.
Given Hamas has penchant for using human shields and the amount of ordinance the IDF has brought to bear on that relatively small area 20k does not seem unusually high. When you consider how Hamas has morphed since being voted into power it amplifies the tragic loss of civilian life however it is a tragedy of their own making even if everyone didn't make the choice and many more thought they were making a different choice. If you put a country and a people into an existential crisis you can't expect a kinder gentler ROE especially when the terrorists stand behind you.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:11 pm to TDFreak
I don't know or care. The Palestinians FAFO.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:12 pm to TDFreak
quote:
Do we believe the Palestinian Heath Department reports of 20,000 deaths?
About as much as I believe some fat dude is flying around the world with deer in a couple of days.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:10 pm to TDFreak
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:10 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
No.
I’m sure it’s a lot, thousands.
But not 20K.
I think it's more than 20K, everyone has been saying the death toll in Gaza is expected to rise significantly when Palestinians are able to dig out of the vast destruction. There are entire city blocks in the north that have been leveled. Israel is claiming that they have killed over 8K Hamas fighters alone.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:14 pm to TDFreak
quote:
Palestinian Heath Department reports of 20,000 deaths
Still way to low.
God told the Israelites to kill everyone in the promised land over 2000 years ago.
Because they didnt, they are still dealing with the problems these people create.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:17 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
FAFO
just like those 3 israeli hostages that almost escaped did
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