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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize

Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7766 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:44 pm to
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At a relatively small # of privately held companies, true. Ochsner does not qualify as such


There are some places where the children of current board members get selected over someone with more experience. It is not just in hospitals or certain businesses.

Nepotism is everywhere. Some get it by their last name only while some may have to work through the system only getting the certificates or advanced degrees on paper needed to advance to the next level. Some places will keep that name on staff regardless of the quality of work they bring to the table. Some times this is done for political reasons if a certain elected official has a child that is looking to advance in a certain career field.

Not only that, those nepo babies have the inside track to follow the same footsteps as their parents going through the same pipeline of education and eventually landing nearly in the same position as their parents.

It is the same in any professional field.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Gham
Member since Nov 2023
288 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:01 pm to
Good stuff, frick hospital administrators. If you’re a bootlicker and don’t like it, please GO frick YOURSELF.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50571 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:17 pm to
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We did bail out GM and a lot of their issues were due to pension packages that were not sustainable


The biggest bailout in our country’s history went to banks and financial institutions. How many of those are unionized? I think it’s fewer than one.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11484 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:22 pm to
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I hate public sector unions and was raised in a very anti-union farm family.

But I will say this...my wife has worked at non-union hospitals in Oklahoma and Texas and in a union hospital in California. The non-union hospitals actually had unsafe working environments for the nurses because of ridiculous patient census.


My wife works for a very shitty hospital... on the verge of financial collapse. 100% mismanagement is the cause. Her 1st day, her department head held a meeting concerning the overuse of overtime, then proceeded to schedule her to work 84 hours in her very first pay period.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50571 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:22 pm to
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I just cant understand why anyone else would want to have their value bound to the least common denominator.

Imagine how shitty their work conditions are if this is better than the current system.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11484 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:35 pm to
I'm not a union guy, by any stretch of the imagingation, but I get why some are. My wife, an RN, is scheduled for 12-hour shifts. Last week they had her there for over 15 hours. The next day, they tried to send her home after only 5 hours, because "they weren't busy". If you want to know why nurses push for unions, this is example 1.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:37 pm to
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I hate to be disagreeable, but salary is determinative. $6M CEOs are far, far, far easier to replace than quality $100K RNs. For verification, one simply need look at the number of apps per position.



Healthcare administrators in particular are terrible.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15030 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:54 pm to
Stupidest fricking wording of a topic ever maybe.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120795 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:58 pm to
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A nurse will never make in a lifetime what these fat cats pay themselves in one year. They aren't on the frontlines of disease and can't even start a simple IV for a patient. The system is broken, that's for sure.


The CEo could cut his salary down to 100k and it wouldnt even be enough to give $1/hr more to nurses
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:02 pm to
They don’t care. The CEO makes more money than them and they’re mad about it
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2219 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Name a single instance of a union improving things for the American consumer.

You can’t because it’s never happened.


Show us where CEOs have done the country everything that is right

CEOs who only care about the bottom dollar while making themselves rich are the same ones who shut down American places of production, moved it to places like China, and sold the American consumer in many cases an inferior product.

Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2219 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:19 pm to
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The CEo could cut his salary down to 100k and it wouldnt even be enough to give $1/hr more to nurses


You missed the point of all this beef with hospital CEO administration types

They squeeze everything they can from a nurse, for example, while crying to everyone that they need to be a "team player" and work for "x" amount yet the administrator CEO would never play on the team for such realistic wage, i.e. working for $500,000 a year compared to a $6,000,000 a year figure.

Its all bullshite and even the administration types know it.

I'm not a union type, I don't care for them but I see where this is all going.
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1020 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:24 pm to
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The ER doc makes about $200,000 a year.




Maybe in the UK or Canada!
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120795 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:32 pm to
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The ER doc makes about $200,000 a year


Lol.

A full time ER doc in a busy tertiary care hospital makes 500k at least.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2219 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:43 pm to
I was throwing numbers out for the New Orleans area market and what I said isn't an exaggeration


Some of yall know everything on here, carry on
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by lsutiger90
Cottage Grove, Houston, TX
Member since May 2004
1020 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:51 pm to
I know an ER doc in NO. And he isn’t even close to the $444k. You’re an idiot if you believe that garbage site. $78K salary doesn’t exist . A resident can make more than that moonlighting.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28406 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:53 pm to
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Some of yall know everything on here, carry



Yea, gonna call bullshite on that……

I’d hate to see the ER docs that website states are making $78k/yr……those numbers may include residents.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28406 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:54 pm to
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CEOs who only care about the bottom dollar while making themselves rich are the same ones who shut down American places of production, moved it to places like China, and sold the American consumer in many cases an inferior product.


You obviously should move to a communist country
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2219 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:01 pm to
I know one too...I know a few actually

I didn't quote 78k. I stated 200k. Certainly some make more than that.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
5427 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:02 pm to
ER doctors do not make $78,000 a year. They probably don’t make $500,000. The truth is in the middle. Probably around the 200’s depending on how much they want to work.
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