- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message

Brian Kelly after year two.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:41 am
Let me start off by saying mostly what I wrote here was in response to another Tiger fan who voiced displeasure with Brian Kelly and the job he's done so far here at LSU.
After reading it, I kind of felt like it needed its own post, in case there are more people who feel that way, and why it's ridiculous to think that.
So this is basically my own assessment of Brian Kelly, and the job he's performed up to this point. So here it goes ...
Wait, you still think you've been right about Kelly, and that you don't think he's done a good job as coach of the LSU football program ? Seriously ? Kelly still hasn't been given enough credit for the rebuild he's done by a portion fanbase. It's incredible to me that there are people like you that exist.
The biggest complaint I hear from Kelly detractors is this one. "If he would have fielded an even competent defense, we would be in the playoff, vying for a national championship."
So in year 2 of a complete rebuild and cultural overhaul, down to 37 scholarship players on the roster, to having a Heisman winner with the best offense in College Football, the only thing that YOU can glean from that is Kelly isn't a good coach who can't recruit ? Are you fricking serious ?
So because, what, we didn't have back to back #1 recruiting classes and we didn't win a Championship in his second year that he's somehow not lived up to your expectations ?
Or is it because he didn't have the best defense with award winners scattered across the unit to go along with the offense ?
I do get it, to an extent, peoples frustration with the defense this season.
However, this entire program has been playing 1 foot off the ground for the entire time he's been here. The expectations around this program are only as high as they are because of the success Kelly has had since he's been here.
The expectations around here are immense to the point of being unreasonable, yet on at least one side of the ball, he has exceeded them in every measurable statistic that exists.
He took a program in LSU that was going the way Tennessee did for 2 decades, the way Florida has been going since Urban, and revived it in his first year.
In his second year he has an offensive staff that is showing itself to be the very best in the nation. Every single coach on that side of the ball has proven to be both incredible recruiters and peerless in their development of the players they recruit.
Kelly is responsible for putting that staff together, and providing them the culture and opportunity for them to succeed here, and they have.
The defense has struggled, admittedly, but there are tangible, measurable reasons for that. Those things are quantifiable, identifiable, and correctable.
I think that it is completely understandable to have one phase of the game or another struggle to find its own success inside of 3 years of a rebuild like the one that was required here, and I certainly wouldn't use those struggles so early on as reasoning for disparaging the very same coach that raised the expectations around here in the first place.
The best indicator of future performance is past performance. In that regard I have all the confidence in the world that Kelly will address the problems the programs has suffered from thus far and turn that weakness to a strength. The way that leaders and coaches of his caliber do.
After reading it, I kind of felt like it needed its own post, in case there are more people who feel that way, and why it's ridiculous to think that.
So this is basically my own assessment of Brian Kelly, and the job he's performed up to this point. So here it goes ...
Wait, you still think you've been right about Kelly, and that you don't think he's done a good job as coach of the LSU football program ? Seriously ? Kelly still hasn't been given enough credit for the rebuild he's done by a portion fanbase. It's incredible to me that there are people like you that exist.
The biggest complaint I hear from Kelly detractors is this one. "If he would have fielded an even competent defense, we would be in the playoff, vying for a national championship."
So in year 2 of a complete rebuild and cultural overhaul, down to 37 scholarship players on the roster, to having a Heisman winner with the best offense in College Football, the only thing that YOU can glean from that is Kelly isn't a good coach who can't recruit ? Are you fricking serious ?
So because, what, we didn't have back to back #1 recruiting classes and we didn't win a Championship in his second year that he's somehow not lived up to your expectations ?
Or is it because he didn't have the best defense with award winners scattered across the unit to go along with the offense ?
I do get it, to an extent, peoples frustration with the defense this season.
However, this entire program has been playing 1 foot off the ground for the entire time he's been here. The expectations around this program are only as high as they are because of the success Kelly has had since he's been here.
The expectations around here are immense to the point of being unreasonable, yet on at least one side of the ball, he has exceeded them in every measurable statistic that exists.
He took a program in LSU that was going the way Tennessee did for 2 decades, the way Florida has been going since Urban, and revived it in his first year.
In his second year he has an offensive staff that is showing itself to be the very best in the nation. Every single coach on that side of the ball has proven to be both incredible recruiters and peerless in their development of the players they recruit.
Kelly is responsible for putting that staff together, and providing them the culture and opportunity for them to succeed here, and they have.
The defense has struggled, admittedly, but there are tangible, measurable reasons for that. Those things are quantifiable, identifiable, and correctable.
I think that it is completely understandable to have one phase of the game or another struggle to find its own success inside of 3 years of a rebuild like the one that was required here, and I certainly wouldn't use those struggles so early on as reasoning for disparaging the very same coach that raised the expectations around here in the first place.
The best indicator of future performance is past performance. In that regard I have all the confidence in the world that Kelly will address the problems the programs has suffered from thus far and turn that weakness to a strength. The way that leaders and coaches of his caliber do.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:42 am to ZenFNmaster
quote:
Let me start off by saying
thats where i stopped reading and downvoted that WALL of text
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:44 am to ZenFNmaster
Too long. I got stuff to do.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:45 am to ZenFNmaster
He won 9 regular season games and tied for 2nd in the west, with no defense.
Give him a chance to put a defense on the field.
I’ve been critical of the defensive coaching, but Kelly deserves a chance to make it right.
Give him a chance to put a defense on the field.
I’ve been critical of the defensive coaching, but Kelly deserves a chance to make it right.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:50 am to ZenFNmaster
19-7 and an SEC West Title, after being given a roster with 39 scholarship players. If we get back to back 10 win seasons I would say we are ahead of schedule. He will do what is needed on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:57 am to ZenFNmaster
To say what he said after the Bama game. We are great NOT elite
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:05 am to ZenFNmaster
I like BK and he won the West Y1 which is awesome, but I also can’t overlook the fact that he’s 3-6 vs ranked teams in his 2 years
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:22 am to ZenFNmaster
Ain't reading all that shite. Geaux Tigahs.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:41 am to ZenFNmaster
Didn’t read all that.
Did downvote, tho.
Did downvote, tho.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:44 am to poochie
If you don't hold them with the first paragraph or two, it's over. This is the microwave generation.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:47 am to ZenFNmaster
He unquestionably has the program in good shape and headed in the right direction. Already made it to SECCG, on the cusp of two straight ten-win seasons, and has put together the best offense in college football complete with a Heisman winner.
All of this with the program in the dirt following Ed.
All of this with the program in the dirt following Ed.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:10 pm to ZenFNmaster
The offense is ahead of schedule.
The defense is behind schedule.
The overall record has improved tremendously.
Year 4 should be the year of alignment.
The defense is behind schedule.
The overall record has improved tremendously.
Year 4 should be the year of alignment.

Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:36 pm to ZenFNmaster
quote:
The best indicator of future performance is past performance.
In the past, how many losses have Kelly teams averaged per year?
I think whatever that answer is...there is your "indicator" and what future performances you can expect.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:48 pm to ZenFNmaster
quote:
He took a program in LSU that was going the way Tennessee did for 2 decades
Stop it

Posted on 12/6/23 at 1:13 pm to ZenFNmaster
BK has turned the LSU program around and this should be our second 10 win season.
I also believe that BK is going to make DC and other defensive coaching changes after early signing day or after the Bowl game.

I also believe that BK is going to make DC and other defensive coaching changes after early signing day or after the Bowl game.



Posted on 12/6/23 at 1:22 pm to DalenSA
quote:
like BK and he won the West Y1 which is awesome, but I also can’t overlook the fact that he’s 3-6 vs ranked teams in his 2 years
Did he have more talent in those losses? Why do you expect Kelly to beat team with more talent when even Saban struggles to beat teams with even talent?
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 1:25 pm
Popular
Back to top
