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re: Record vs eye test
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:52 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:52 am to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:
FSU struggled against both teams they played after their QB got hurt.
Bama struggled against a ton of teams even with their starting QB. They get a pass for it but FSU doesn’t?
The SOS argument is horseshite. Bama struggled against 6-6 USF, 7-5 Aggy, 4-8 Ark, 6-6 Aub.
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:59 am to Not Cooper
quote:
Bama struggled against a ton of teams even with their starting QB. They get a pass for it but FSU doesn’t?
The difference here is that Bama beat the number 1 team in the country in the final game and won the hardest league in the country.
Look I am not happy Bama is in the playoffs but the idea that they should let FSU in despite seeing 2 weeks in a row that they aren't very good is ridiculous. Most years FSU gets in by default. This year there were 7 undefeated or one loss teams that had a good argument. You don't leave out teams that can actually compete for a championship in favor of one that clearly can't.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:53 pm to Not Cooper
FSU beat up on opponents with a combined record of 77-79. They said they scheduled more P5 opponents than anyone else, but that's not true. They played 11 P5 opponents, same as Texas and Washington. Bama, UGA, and Michigan played 10.
Here is your opponenent records:
Alabama: 98-61 (61.6%)
Texas: 91-67 (57.6%)
Georgia: 87-69 (55.8%)
Wash: 87-72 (54.7%)
Mich: 83-75 (52.5%)
FSU: 77-79 (49.4%)
(most of those are WITH Jordan Travis)
Against P5 Opponents Records only:
Alabama: 80-42 (65.6%)
Georgia: 71-50 (58.7%)
Texas: 77-57 (57.5%)
Wash: 75-59 (56%)
Mich: 65-56 (53.7%)
FSU: 71-62 (53.4%)
# of P5 games played (W-L vs Final CFP Top 25):
Wash: 11 (4-0)
FSU: 11 (3-0)
Texas: 11 (3-1)
Mich: 10 (3-0)
Alabama: 10 (3-1)
Georgia: 10 (3-1)
P5 schedule and records are pretty even, but the opponent records are VERY telling. I understand using the conference champion criteria since they all had 0 or 1 loss, but there was a case that could have been made for UGA to stay in over Michigan and FSU. WHO you play overall matters.
Here is your opponenent records:
Alabama: 98-61 (61.6%)
Texas: 91-67 (57.6%)
Georgia: 87-69 (55.8%)
Wash: 87-72 (54.7%)
Mich: 83-75 (52.5%)
FSU: 77-79 (49.4%)
(most of those are WITH Jordan Travis)
Against P5 Opponents Records only:
Alabama: 80-42 (65.6%)
Georgia: 71-50 (58.7%)
Texas: 77-57 (57.5%)
Wash: 75-59 (56%)
Mich: 65-56 (53.7%)
FSU: 71-62 (53.4%)
# of P5 games played (W-L vs Final CFP Top 25):
Wash: 11 (4-0)
FSU: 11 (3-0)
Texas: 11 (3-1)
Mich: 10 (3-0)
Alabama: 10 (3-1)
Georgia: 10 (3-1)
P5 schedule and records are pretty even, but the opponent records are VERY telling. I understand using the conference champion criteria since they all had 0 or 1 loss, but there was a case that could have been made for UGA to stay in over Michigan and FSU. WHO you play overall matters.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:10 pm to Not Cooper
“Bama struggled against a ton of teams even with their starting QB. They get a pass for it but FSU doesn’t?
The SOS argument is horseshite. Bama struggled against 6-6 USF, 7-5 Aggy, 4-8 Ark, 6-6 Aub.”
This is a great post and I’ll add that winning by two scores in the swamp and again by about that same margin against a top 15 Louisville team at a neutral site is not my idea of struggling. Those are very good results to close the 2023 season
The SOS argument is horseshite. Bama struggled against 6-6 USF, 7-5 Aggy, 4-8 Ark, 6-6 Aub.”
This is a great post and I’ll add that winning by two scores in the swamp and again by about that same margin against a top 15 Louisville team at a neutral site is not my idea of struggling. Those are very good results to close the 2023 season
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