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re: Dante Moore plans to enter the portal
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:27 pm to TigerKnights
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:27 pm to TigerKnights
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I didn't mean it toward Moore. I do mean it toward KJ Jefferson or Cam Ward or anyone with 1 year remaining.
Why are you even talking about KJ? You keep talking about not wanting to guarantee someone the starter job, in a thread about Dante Moore. People keep telling you Kelly isn’t going to guarantee anyone the job. And your response is “what about KJ Jefferson”? How does that even make sense in the context of this thread?
You also keep saying you’re fine with Dante Moore “as a backup.” To which I would say.. no shite.
I don’t know if you’re missing the point or just ignoring it. If a guy like Dante Moore is interested and he’s willing to compete, you go get him (barring any drastic implications with Underwood). If Moore then becomes the starter, it doesn’t mean he was guaranteed the job (just like it didn’t mean Daniels was guaranteed the job in 2022). It just means the coaches thought he was the best option at the end of camp.
It’s really a win/win. If Nussmeier wins, you have a fantastic backup who will continue to push Nussmeier through fall camp and beyond. If Moore wins and Nuss transfers, you aren’t any worse off than you were before. If anything you’re better off because the guy you kept is the one the coaches felt better about.
Also, I would dispute the idea that no QB with little eligibility is going anywhere without guarantees. The coaches might be telling them “we feel very strongly that you can be our starter” but anyone who makes outright promises like that is an idiot. I’m sure there are some coaches who will do this but I doubt it’s the majority at P5 universities.
That said, I do believe that guys like KJ are paying very close attention to the rosters at prospective schools. He might not go anywhere where he doesn’t feel very good about winning the job. Which might scare him away from a school like LSU. But - again - that doesn’t mean that any veteran QB transfer was guaranteed the job if they come here.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:58 pm to lostinbr
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How does that even make sense in the context of this thread?
Because the topic is transfer QBs in general. This discussion started in the KJ thread I think was over on the rant.
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If anything you’re better off because the guy you kept is the one the coaches felt better about.
Perhaps, but the coaches can make mistakes. Would really suck to watch Nuss light it up somewhere else after getting screwed here then have the guy he was screwed for underperform.
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I’m sure there are some coaches who will do this but I doubt it’s the majority at P5 universities.
I disagree. Unless as you said you outright trick a guy which is kind of gross in itself. This is their livelihood and future. At the end of the day you still need to be a decent human being.
I think NIL makes this even more likely to be the case because who is paying a guy a million dollars to come without a guarantee that guy starts. So now you gotta promise the transfer and the person funding the NIL. You think they will keep giving money if they offer a million to a kid to get him here and the coach never even starts them? Not to mention there'd probably be no shot at a competition whether the job was promised or not. Nuss himself would be foolish not to immediately transfer if such a guy is announced. At that point he's gambling his own future on the off chance no promises were made. Also that you can beat out a guy the coaches clearly want more than you who has experience you were never given an opportunity to gain. Beyond Nuss this again leads to a transfer QBs will always start scenario outside a fluke year with nobody worth shite in the portal and a young guy on the roster gets super lucky.
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