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House's lack of personnel excuse on defense
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:04 pm
IMO is bs. I wish I could have seen a game or two in person this season so I could really judge but on the tube they really didn't look outmatched physically. They just cant cover a back out of the back field or they forget tight ends can run routes as well on 3rd down. We are ranked around 100 in total defense, no way Rice, Duke or Rutgers has more elite talent then we do. Honestly we had several guys that flashed elite skills like Perkins, weeks, and a number of dl, de's that 99 percent of those teams ranked ahead of us would kill for. In game adjustments plain sucked, we were consistently worse in the second half. I really hope BK doesn't give House or this entire defensive staff a pass because an elite coordinator/staff would have figured something out.
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:06 pm to Srobi14
He lost 4 defensive backs over the course of the season.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:09 pm to Srobi14
I get the personnel losses. However what I saw throughout the season was undisciplined confusion. Every single game. It’s coaching.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:10 pm to tiggerthetooth
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He lost 4 defensive backs over the course of the season.
And his best interior D-Lineman.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:12 pm to Srobi14
I mean our dline got dominated against ole miss, bama, most of missouri, fsu 2nd half. Dline looked great last 3-4, games.
Speights is worse mlb ever seen for lsu.
Burns is one of worst safeties to ever play for lsu in modern Era.
And you lost cb 1-5 to whatever injury, sitting out, off field reasons. True fr are low 3 stars and it shows
Lost your captain and best db and tackler in brooks. He isn't replaceable from our current bench.
Inexcusable stuff :
- weeks not starting over speights. Naked photos, something was going on
- not blitzing and playing man to simplify assignments and play faster
- complicated zone read concepts with no experience or bad vision safeties / secondary
- Jefferson and guillory not playing as much or more then mason when mason was being moved on sleds by every oline first 8 games of the year.
- use of Perkins: this last game was a nice mix of coverage, flat support, blitz, and spy. You spy him as much as did against atm for bama, maybe we win.
- waiting til bama to play that mother f'r #25 toviano, who gave up like 3 passes over 4 games (wtf).
Our defense was horrible personnel wise all year, and it showed. But things could have been better with basic player or assignment adjustments.
Speights is worse mlb ever seen for lsu.
Burns is one of worst safeties to ever play for lsu in modern Era.
And you lost cb 1-5 to whatever injury, sitting out, off field reasons. True fr are low 3 stars and it shows
Lost your captain and best db and tackler in brooks. He isn't replaceable from our current bench.
Inexcusable stuff :
- weeks not starting over speights. Naked photos, something was going on
- not blitzing and playing man to simplify assignments and play faster
- complicated zone read concepts with no experience or bad vision safeties / secondary
- Jefferson and guillory not playing as much or more then mason when mason was being moved on sleds by every oline first 8 games of the year.
- use of Perkins: this last game was a nice mix of coverage, flat support, blitz, and spy. You spy him as much as did against atm for bama, maybe we win.
- waiting til bama to play that mother f'r #25 toviano, who gave up like 3 passes over 4 games (wtf).
Our defense was horrible personnel wise all year, and it showed. But things could have been better with basic player or assignment adjustments.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:13 pm to Srobi14
Look, if House had simply tried new things, this excuse would be valid. Game in and out it was the same gameplan and personnel with no changes. Only injuries forced personnel changes.
I highly doubt he was the mastermind behind the different scheme in the 2nd half against AtM, if he was why the hell did it take him the entire year.
He deserves to be fired because he literally sucked and did nothing about it.
I highly doubt he was the mastermind behind the different scheme in the 2nd half against AtM, if he was why the hell did it take him the entire year.
He deserves to be fired because he literally sucked and did nothing about it.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
BRILLIANT! Bulletin; Rice, Duke and Rutgers would be stomped in the SEC. We held Auburn to 14 points Bama held them to 24 points and should have lost the game. Should Nick fire his DC?
Go away
Go away
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:22 pm to tgdk11
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Inexcusable stuff : - weeks not starting over speights. Naked photos, something was going on - not blitzing and playing man to simplify assignments and play faster - complicated zone read concepts with no experience or bad vision safeties / secondary - Jefferson and guillory not playing as much or more then mason when mason was being moved on sleds by every oline first 8 games of the year. - use of Perkins: this last game was a nice mix of coverage, flat support, blitz, and spy. You spy him as much as did against atm for bama, maybe we win. - waiting til bama to play that mother f'r #25 toviano, who gave up like 3 passes over 4 games (wtf).
F’n This
Everyone agrees about personnel issues…but the talent on the roster isnt this bad. That’s 100% on coaching, not adjusting to your personnel and WTF is the thought process on not playing your best players? Every time Womack was in the game, he disrupted the play….but let’s only get him in 3 or 4 plays a game. Then having Weeks on the sideline as speights blows another assignment or misses another tackle. Is there another starting ILB that reordered 0 TFL and 0 sacks?
Don’t give me personnel excuse when you didn’t play the best players.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
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He lost 4 defensive backs over the course of the season.
This does not explain the poor DLine and LB play. This was the strength of the defense, and they didn't perform.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:27 pm to BTRDD
well we had Harold perkins playing slot corner for most of the year 
Just a complete F all around for the defense, from playing Omar over Weeks, not playing #25 sooner, not blitzing or playing man coverage. They were just collecting a paycheck from LSU, completely negligent and in reality it falls back on Kelly for allowing that to manifest
Just a complete F all around for the defense, from playing Omar over Weeks, not playing #25 sooner, not blitzing or playing man coverage. They were just collecting a paycheck from LSU, completely negligent and in reality it falls back on Kelly for allowing that to manifest
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:28 pm to Srobi14
My issue is that what he did have did not improve…at all. 3rd down defense sucked until the bitter end.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:31 pm to bstew3006
quote:ft
Everyone agrees about personnel issues…but the talent on the roster isnt this bad. That’s 100% on coaching, not adjusting to your personnel and WTF is the thought process on not playing your best players? Every time Womack was in the game, he disrupted the play….but let’s only get him in 3 or 4 plays a game.
Don’t give me personnel excuse when you didn’t play the best players.
Let me get this right. So we here are to believe YOU know more about who should and should not be playing than the HC, the DC and all the defensive position coaches at LSU? Tell us about your day to day interactions with Womack and all the other defensive players. Tell us about how you are involved in breaking down game film to see who will be most effective at each position. Tell us what it's like to be involved in the gameplan.
I would really like to know.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:31 pm to TheJuicey
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Look, if House had simply tried new things, this excuse would be valid. Game in and out it was the same gameplan and personnel with no changes.
THIS. It was the defensive equivalent of the Les Miles offense. NO ONE was scared of it.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:37 pm to Srobi14
should be fired no adjustments and no recruiting that's not okay for big boy football
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:41 pm to Carbonman
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Tell us about your day to day interactions with Womack and all the other defensive players. Tell us about how you are involved in breaking down game film to see who will be most effective at each position. Tell us what it's like to be involved in the gameplan.
I would really like to know.
Calm down Coach. You should have made better adjustments but you didn't. So now CBK needs to adjust you out of the system completely. Good luck during your job search.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:45 pm to Srobi14
That's main problem is inexperienced players
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:55 pm to bstew3006
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Don’t give me personnel excuse when you didn’t play the best players
A good coach would play the younger more talented player for a few plays, then sub them out and teach 5hem what they did right/wrong. Then sub them back in. You do not hold them out for 90% of the game when the guys on the field cannot make a stop.
It does not take an elite coach to figure this out. With a real coach, this group of players, even with injuries and suspensions, could be middle of the road. 60 ish in the country.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:57 pm to Carbonman
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would really like to know.
You tell me, coach
Why were Weeks / Toviano / Womack / Jefferson / Guillory etc not getting in games for weeks at a time? When they did play, it was limited to under 5 plays, why? When they were in, they made an immediate impact, but taken out, why?
Weeks wasn’t playing, then got in with speights injury s s was the leading tackler over a 3 game stretch, then didn’t play for 3weeks, why? Why was speights starting over him? Speights makes DJ welter look like brady James
Womack had logged 3 plays Saturday and recorded a tackle and .5 sack, why was he limited to 3 plays? That’s been the story all season. Gets in 1-3 plays and makes immediate impact!
Toviana didn’t play until Alabana and turned out to be best corner, why didn’t you play him earlier?
Do you want me to keep going, Coach?
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:59 pm to tgdk11
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True fr are low 3 stars and it shows
this narrative is ridiculous, Toviono was top 100, jackson and yates were top 250 4stars and Stamps seems to be an overperforming 3 star. Your other points were spot on though. Blitzing and keeping things simple with more man coverage would take alot of pressure off of the young dbs and could prevent those explosive plays on 3rd down. Also it is inexcusable that #4 or #40 didn't spy or blitz Miloroe every play. in addition to not playing the obvious best players makes you wonder if House had money on the games.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 5:03 pm to Screaming Viking
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good coach would play the younger more talented player for a few plays, then sub them out and teach 5hem what they did right/wrong. Then sub them back in. You do not hold them out for 90% of the game when the guys on the field cannot make a stop.
This guy gets it!
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It does not take an elite coach to figure this out. With a real coach, this group of players, even with injuries and suspensions, could be middle of the road. 60 ish in the country.
Agreed.
The personnel decisions were head scratchers for sure. They easily could have been 60-80th in most defensive categories. Which would have gotten this team to 10-2 (ole miss win) or 11-1 (OM / Bana)… it would have taken just avg or just below avg D to win those games.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 5:15 pm
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