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Young Thug YSL RICO Trial Official Thread
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:04 pm
YouTube - Young Thug YSL RICO Trial
LINK - New York Times Overview of the Case
YouTube - Law and Crime Feed
OT jurists and legal scholars, will Young Thug and his Young Slime Life (YSL) crew beat the RICO Charges?
LINK - New York Times Overview of the Case
YouTube - Law and Crime Feed
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When the racketeering and gang conspiracy trial of Jeffery Williams, best known as the chart-topping rapper Young Thug, began on Monday in Atlanta, the star defendant had been in jail for 567 days.
Already estimated to last the better part of a year, the trial took nearly twice that long to even get going, with the case’s legal intricacies, unforeseen courtroom dramas, plea deals and various other delays leading to a jury selection process that lasted nearly 10 months.
Much about the case — which seeks to answer whether one of the most famous and influential rappers of his time was also spearheading a violent criminal enterprise — could be described as epic, including its scope, with alleged crimes from 2015 to 2022; its effect on rap music and the city that remains one of the genre’s centers for innovation; and its entanglement with the potential legal fate of former President Donald J. Trump.
In August, a grand jury convened by District Attorney Fani T. Willis of Fulton County indicted Mr. Trump and others in a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia under the same criminal racketeering law, or RICO, used to charge Young Thug. (A third racketeering case in Fulton County, against dozens of local activists, is drawing national interest as well.)
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Who is Jeffery Williams, a.k.a. Young Thug?
Mr. Williams, 32, is one of modern Atlanta’s rap icons, having remade the genre in his image over the past decade. Combining psychedelic experimentalism in voice, melody, lyricism and fashion with a hardened street edge and a sneaky pop sensibility, Mr. Williams has earned three No. 1 albums on the Billboard chart and collaborated widely with musicians including Drake, Kanye West, Future and Travis Scott.
In 2018, as a featured artist, Young Thug reached No. 1 on the singles chart with the singer Camila Cabello’s “Havana.” The following year, he won a Grammy for song of the year as a writer of Childish Gambino’s “This Is America,” the first rap song to win that award.
The 10th of 1l children, Mr. Williams was raised in the Jonesboro South housing projects and along the desolate South Atlanta corridor Cleveland Avenue. He founded YSL in the area around late 2012, according to court documents, in association with two other men, both of whom have pleaded guilty in the case.
OT jurists and legal scholars, will Young Thug and his Young Slime Life (YSL) crew beat the RICO Charges?
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:10 pm to jclem11
Free Thug
Free Trump
Innocent men don't take deals!
Free Trump
Innocent men don't take deals!
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:30 pm to jclem11
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RICO Trial
My favorite rapper.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:30 pm to Tyga Woods
Young Thug = Famous rapper and member of a gang in Atlanta, Georgia called "Young Slime Life" or "YSL". Young Thug is facing racketeering, drug and gun charges related to his alleged involvement with a criminal street gang. A Fulton County grand jury indicted Young Thug in May 2022.
Prosecutors say Young Thug and two other people co-founded a violent criminal street gang in 2012 called Young Slime Life, or YSL, which they say is associated with the national Bloods gang. The indictment says Young Thug "made YSL a well-known name by referring to it in his songs and on social media."
In addition to specific charges, the August indictment includes a wide-ranging list of 191 acts that prosecutors say were committed between 2013 and 2022 as part of the alleged conspiracy to further the gang's interests.
YSL = Young Slime Life - a street gang in Atlanta that the state alleges was involved in organized crime activities.
RICO = The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.
RICO was enacted by Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law (United States) 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970), and is codified at 18 U.S.C. ch. 96 as 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961–1968.
This article primarily covers the federal criminal statute, but since 1972, 33 U.S. states and territories have adopted state RICO laws, which although similar, cover additional state crimes and may differ from the federal law and each other in several respects.
Prosecutors say Young Thug and two other people co-founded a violent criminal street gang in 2012 called Young Slime Life, or YSL, which they say is associated with the national Bloods gang. The indictment says Young Thug "made YSL a well-known name by referring to it in his songs and on social media."
In addition to specific charges, the August indictment includes a wide-ranging list of 191 acts that prosecutors say were committed between 2013 and 2022 as part of the alleged conspiracy to further the gang's interests.
YSL = Young Slime Life - a street gang in Atlanta that the state alleges was involved in organized crime activities.
RICO = The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.
RICO was enacted by Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law (United States) 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970), and is codified at 18 U.S.C. ch. 96 as 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961–1968.
This article primarily covers the federal criminal statute, but since 1972, 33 U.S. states and territories have adopted state RICO laws, which although similar, cover additional state crimes and may differ from the federal law and each other in several respects.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:38 pm to jclem11
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having remade the genre in his image over the past decade. Combining psychedelic experimentalism in voice, melody, lyricism and fashion with a hardened street edge and a sneaky pop sensibility, Mr. Williams has earned three No. 1 albums on the Billboard chart
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:40 pm to jclem11
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Mr. Williams, 32, is one of modern Atlanta’s rap icons, having remade the genre in his image over the past decade. Combining psychedelic experimentalism in voice, melody, lyricism and fashion with a hardened street edge and a sneaky pop sensibility, Mr. Williams has earned three No. 1 albums on the Billboard chart and collaborated widely with musicians including Drake, Kanye West, Future and Travis Scott.
He created "mumble rap?"
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:53 pm to bad93ex
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He created "mumble rap?"
His music is more melodic and perhaps a bit "mumbly".
I don't listen Young Thug so my opinion on his style is limited.
The interesting part of this case is the judge is allowing the state to present lyrics from some of his tracks as evidence.
Brings an interesting question in regards to the line between free expression and the right against self incrimination.
There is a whole separate discussion about the drill rap scene and its impacts on the inner cities and glorifying the gang life.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:55 pm to jclem11
If MAGA wins, he'll be out by '28.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:58 pm to Tyga Woods
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Tyga Woods
This thread is for discussion of the trial not the fashion choices and music of the defendants.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:05 pm to jclem11
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Brings an interesting question in regards to the line between free expression and the right against self incrimination.
The government didn't force them to record a confession of his crimes to music. I can appreciate the free expression portion, but not the self incrimination aspect. Baw told on himself, over and over again. He's like his own 6ix9ine.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:07 pm to jclem11
The part regarding lyrics being admissible evidence will be interesting. If the prosecution builds their case on that they’re retarded, that may not survive appeal.
frick gangs though
frick gangs though
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:12 pm to MoarKilometers
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The government didn't force them to record a confession of his crimes to music.
Sure. They self snitched. It is an interesting question.
This issue has come up in Texas with rapper Tay K, who participated in a home invasion that results in a death.
Prosecutors reportedly played the music video for "The Race" was played in the Dallas courtroom Monday (July 22) and admitted a print-out of the lyrics as evidence for the jury. Prosecutors also used screenshots of the video as evidence, including shots of Tay-K holding a weapon and standing next to a “wanted poster."
They also used images from his social media accounts, including images of him pointing a gun at the camera, the cover artwork for his Living Like Larry EP (in which he's holding a gun), and a picture of him in jail.
In 2016, a then-16-year-old Tay-K and friends broke into Ethan Walker's home. Walker was shot and killed by Latharian Merritt, who was sentenced to life in prison last year. Tay-K was charged and placed on house arrest. He escaped and filmed "The Race" which ended up charting on Billboard.
He received a 55 year sentence.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 4:42 pm to jclem11
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There is a whole separate discussion about the drill rap scene and its impacts on the inner cities and glorifying the gang life.
Rap music has absolutely been a net negative on society.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 5:20 pm to VADawg
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Rap music has absolutely been a net negative on society.
Late 80's/early 90's rap had a brief period of positivity but the suburban white kids liked the gangsta rap too much so that's where the whole genre went. It's all the white kids' fault. Those same white kids are today's white business leaders and the most privileged among our society.
/s but kinda not /s
Posted on 11/27/23 at 6:07 pm to jclem11
Been fun to follow so far. Intimidating witnesses and potential jury members. People have been scared to death to go on this jury
Posted on 11/28/23 at 6:48 am to upstate
YouTube - Judge Gets Furious with Trial Attorneys as Defense Team Motions for Mistrial
Highlight from Day 1. The defense moved for a mistrial based on the state doing shady shite.
This whole trial has been a chaotic circus thus far.
Highlight from Day 1. The defense moved for a mistrial based on the state doing shady shite.
This whole trial has been a chaotic circus thus far.
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