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re: Help the idiot make a great Cajun style gumbo

Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

I heard 2 different things
One person told me to throw the premade roux in a pot of water and let it cook down

Another told me to put all the roux by itself and slowly add water

Which is best ?



There are directions (and a full gumbo recipe I'm sure) on the jar that are pretty straight forward. Just follow those and you will be fine for a simple / easy good but no frills gumbo. I'd start there. Then, if you want to make it even better, use one of the many recipes posted on this site...just about all of them will yield very good results.
Posted by LSshoe
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:21 pm to
One major tip ill give you is to use stock, not water for your liquid base. Stock/broth is liquid flavor. Preferably make your own stock using the protein you're making the gumbo with.

If chicken, I usually butterfly/spatchcock and roast/smoke a whole bird, let it cool then debone and make a stock with the bones and some saved up veggie trimmings including the trimmings from what I plan to Cook in the gumbo. Pressure cooker speeds this process up.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:56 pm to
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Any pros/cons to adding roux later?


I used to do this. Until I realized the power of browning meats and building flavor.

Easiest way is to make the roux in a separate vessel
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

One major tip ill give you is to use stock, not water for your liquid base. Stock/broth is liquid flavor. Preferably make your own stock using the protein you're making the gumbo with. If chicken, I usually butterfly/spatchcock and roast/smoke a whole bird, let it cool then debone and make a stock with the bones and some saved up veggie trimmings including the trimmings from what I plan to Cook in the gumbo. Pressure cooker speeds this process up.


This is great if you’ve got the time. Emerils makes a great chicken stock if you don’t.

If I do make my own chicken stock I try to make enough to freeze some

PS: Karys makes the best jarred roux if you don’t have time.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:11 am to
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Karys makes the best jarred roux if you don’t have time.

What makes one jarred roux better than another - color?

It is just oil and flour.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 11:29 am
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:37 am to
It’s the darkest one
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:55 am to
quote:

One person told me to throw the premade roux in a pot of water and let it cook down

Another told me to put all the roux by itself and slowly add water

Which is best ?
quote:

One person told me to throw the premade roux in a pot of water and let it cook down

Another told me to put all the roux by itself and slowly add water

Which is best ?


Pot of water boiling. Add roux to that. It dissolves much quicker.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7802 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:57 am to
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It’s the darkest one


Savoies is dark enough. No jarred roux is better than the other. You can't get flour and vegetable oil to taste any different. The only thing that changes is color.
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
525 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:20 am to
Last dumb question .
Today is the day I’m doing this .


So I put the chicken and the sausage in the water raw?

I assumed you at least pre cook it partially before putting it in the water
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16613 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:24 am to
quote:

So I put the chicken and the sausage in the water raw?


You could. You could also brown before adding. I generally smoke my chicken before hand, pull off bone, add to gumbo after so it's already cooked through by the time I add it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

So I put the chicken and the sausage in the water raw?


No, brown both of them.

Your steps should be

1 brown meats (I do them separately as sausage and chicken cook differently) and remove from pot
2 cook down trinity in the pot
3 add roux to trinity
4 add stock
5 add meats back in
6 season to taste and simmer til it's done
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:34 am to
I am shocked by the amount of people on here that used jarred roux.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:35 am to
quote:

I am shocked by the amount of people on here that used jarred roux.




I was giving OP steps for his cook, not mine
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:39 am to
quote:

So I put the chicken and the sausage in the water raw? I assumed you at least pre cook it partially before putting it in the water


There is no food safety issue of putting raw meat into boiling stock, as long as you boil it long enough to cook the meat….if that is why you are asking.

You don’t have to brown it but you’ll get better results if you do.
Posted by ThreeBonesCater
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
489 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:10 am to
Jar roux is fine. Smoke the chicken, then make the stock from the bones. Brown the sausage first, remove it, deglaze with the trinity and bay leaves. Add the jar roux and heat everything up, then add the hot stock and simmer. If you want okra add it with the stock and simmer that until it's no longer foamy. I add the chicken and sausage about halfway through to keep it from breaking down too much.

Damn, I guess I'm cooking gumbo today.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2534 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I am shocked by the amount of people on here that used jarred roux.


And dont forget to cut your sausage in the largest pieces possible. Like 3 times the size of your spoon.

Seems to be a FDB tradition.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:40 am to
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You can't get flour and vegetable oil to taste any different. The only thing that changes is color.


while maybe true for shitty mazola, i would never use any vegetable oil in my roux. i used to be able to get duck fat at a local butcher for like $3 but even at $10 for a jar at the grocery store its worth it to me because the roux is delicious.

if i don't have access to any, i'll use bacon grease or lard.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 10:41 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:46 am to
My wife, who makes the best gumbo I have ever had in my life, uses half butter half oil for her fat.

I've tried to get her to experiment with duck fat and she won't do it, she has perfected hers and she's not fricking with it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162264 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:11 am to
quote:

while maybe true for shitty mazola, i would never use any vegetable oil in my roux. i used to be able to get duck fat at a local butcher for like $3 but even at $10 for a jar at the grocery store its worth it to me because the roux is delicious.

if i don't have access to any, i'll use bacon grease or lard.


I'm with you. If I'm making a decent sized gumbo I don't mind spending a little bit more on the cooking fat for the roux. I've tried clarified butter and it worked out well.
Posted by chackbay
the bay area, la.
Member since Jan 2004
1745 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:55 pm to
Cajun Ninja's Gumbo

the Cajun Ninja has an easy to follow video for newbs.
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