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re: Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:38 pm to
Does it matter if it's taken out of context if that's the actual sentiment of a huge chunk of Muslims around the world?
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Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:51 pm to
Considering Muhammad took an army of his followers to Medina and conquered it doesn’t really fit the narrative of Jesus’ ministry and teachings, now does it? The Sixth Pillar is always conveniently overlooked by the panderers or explained away as “metaphorical” or “internal” but millions of his followers have used it throughout the centuries. Now, one will argue that the Crusaders or Inquisition claimed they were following Jesus’ teachings but it doesn’t take a New Testament expert to quickly realize that Jesus never endorsed violence on any level. The same cannot be said about Muhammad and the Quran
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:12 pm to
Goes back to Abraham and Sarah. Sarah thought she would never concieve so she had Abraham sleep with her handmaid, Hagar. That child was Ishmael.

GOD appeared to Abraham and made a covenant and told him his wife Sarah, though old, would concieve a child. His name was Issac.

Genesis 17:19-21 makes clear which way is The Way.

(Talking to Abraham ) Then GOD said: "No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Issac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him."


GOD made it clear, though Ishmael was blessed, HIS covenant flowed through Issac and Issac only.

Islam's lineage starts there with Ishmael. A false one with no covenant with GOD Almighty.


The rub with Muslims is when talking about ISIS Hamas, they will simply say "Islam is a peaceful religion". They will never publicly denounce and call these vermin pigs the trash they are. The reason is publicly they won't support it, but privately they do.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27346 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:54 pm to
News printed today is taken out of context.

You don't think a centuries old religious document might be?
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context?
quote:

"Death to all jews"
is that what is says and in context?
Your premise seems to be that the Qur'an contains the command or proclamation "Death to all Jews."

I think your premise is faulty. I cannot find that text anywhere in the Qur'an. Can you provide a citation?
quote:

Do peaceful Muslim's need to disowned Hamas ... ?
Absolutely. Hamas' actions are not consistent with the Qur'an, and good Muslims should acknowledge this.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Those of your women who commit lewdness, you must have four witnesses against them, from among you. If they testify, confine them to the homes until death claims them, or God makes a way for them.
Posted by MississippiLSUfan
Brookhaven
Member since Oct 2005
12499 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:04 am to
No
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1770 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:03 am to
Every "Holy Book" of all religions are taken out of context.
Those who oppose that religion will point to the worst parts of the book, and those who support said religion will point to the best parts of the book. Using religious texts to justify our actions has been going on for as long as those books have existed. Religions should be judged by how those members of the religion comport themselves in modern times.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10831 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:09 am to
It’s not taken out of context, it’s used out of context to gain control and power. Usually by those that don’t currently have control and power
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