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Trends with House as DC
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:27 am
ETA: Corrected for last year at UK.
Here are the trends of programs before house took over as DC for opponents ppg with one outlier year used to justify hiring him:
Pitt:
Before House (2012) - 23rd /124
House Year 1 (2013) - 81st /125
House Year 2 (2014) - 59th /128
FIU:
Pre-House (2014) - 41st /128
House Year 1 (2015) - 85th /128
UK:
Pre-House (2016) - 87th /128
House Year 1 (2017) - 75th /130
House Year 2 (2018) - 7th /130
Just wow. The last stint was under a Defensive Guru of a head coach in Stoops and he still was awful his first year as with the others, and then when he had real success, he bolted because the lifestyle (i.e. recruiting requirements) were not to his liking. Now he is fully in charge and you are seeing what happens.
Last year was the only year that his team actually improved from the year prior to him arriving, and now he is going back who he is. Easy to understand now why UK fans were happy to get rid of him, especially when he left football because he didn't want the recruiting lifestyle.
Here are the trends of programs before house took over as DC for opponents ppg with one outlier year used to justify hiring him:
Pitt:
Before House (2012) - 23rd /124
House Year 1 (2013) - 81st /125
House Year 2 (2014) - 59th /128
FIU:
Pre-House (2014) - 41st /128
House Year 1 (2015) - 85th /128
UK:
Pre-House (2016) - 87th /128
House Year 1 (2017) - 75th /130
House Year 2 (2018) - 7th /130
Just wow. The last stint was under a Defensive Guru of a head coach in Stoops and he still was awful his first year as with the others, and then when he had real success, he bolted because the lifestyle (i.e. recruiting requirements) were not to his liking. Now he is fully in charge and you are seeing what happens.
Last year was the only year that his team actually improved from the year prior to him arriving, and now he is going back who he is. Easy to understand now why UK fans were happy to get rid of him, especially when he left football because he didn't want the recruiting lifestyle.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 1:47 pm
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:28 am to Geauxgurt
He was always a lazy hire.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:29 am to Geauxgurt
Well I sure don't love those numbers. I wonder if Aranda or Jim Leonard would want to give it a shot for LSU next year.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:29 am to Geauxgurt
The fact he’s the highest paid DC is abysmal
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:35 am to Geauxgurt
We got played boys
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:36 am to Geauxgurt
Coaches we faced last season and again this year are averaging 25.7ppg more than they did last season vs House.
FSU- 24points in 2022, 45 this year
Arkansas- 10 in 2022, 31 this year
Ole Miss- 20 in 2022, 55 this year
FSU- 24points in 2022, 45 this year
Arkansas- 10 in 2022, 31 this year
Ole Miss- 20 in 2022, 55 this year
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:39 am to DhanTigers212
quote:
We got played boys
Did Woody pick him as well?
From looking at his record, we haven't seen his worst yet.
Doesn't give much optimism for Kelly.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:43 am to Geauxgurt
Damn
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:45 am to Geauxgurt
He must interview very well because how can you objectively look at that and then make him the highest paid DC in CFB
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:51 am to Geauxgurt
quote:
UK:
Pre-House (2016) - 58th /128
House Year 1 (2017) - 75th /130
House Year 2 (2018) - 85th /130
Kentucky was 6th in the nation in scoring defense in 2018
They were 86th in 2016, 74th in 2017, then 6th in 2018.
You sure you're not looking at scoring offense?
LINK
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:55 am to LSUTitan99
quote:
The fact he’s the highest paid DC is abysmal
We need him to refund half his checks
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:56 am to Geauxgurt
Further proof it's scheme and as teams make adjustments he simply does not.
With Kelly's insistent on House scheme can easily see we are in deep trouble.
Its hard to fathom an LSU defense that refuses to attack the QB and rather play soft zone.
The problem is that despite getting tossed around on defense no adjustments to scheme.
With Kelly's insistent on House scheme can easily see we are in deep trouble.
Its hard to fathom an LSU defense that refuses to attack the QB and rather play soft zone.
The problem is that despite getting tossed around on defense no adjustments to scheme.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:58 am to Geauxgurt
Bad take.
2018 they went 10-3, D gave up over 24 points ONCE (34 to UGA). He also coached OLBs and turned Josh Allen into an all American.
2019 went to KC and won the super as a LB coach FTR.
The OP is just cherry picking stats and doing the revionist history shtick to justify wanting him gone.
I’m not saying he necessarily needs to be retained, but his resume at other places isn’t why.
Stop the nonsense.
2018 they went 10-3, D gave up over 24 points ONCE (34 to UGA). He also coached OLBs and turned Josh Allen into an all American.
2019 went to KC and won the super as a LB coach FTR.
The OP is just cherry picking stats and doing the revionist history shtick to justify wanting him gone.
I’m not saying he necessarily needs to be retained, but his resume at other places isn’t why.
Stop the nonsense.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:03 pm to mwade91383
This thread just took a big left turn
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:03 pm to lsufball19
quote:
They were 86th in 2016, 74th in 2017, then 6th in 2018.
I stand corrected. The site I used had the offense and defense switched for some reason that year.
They were 7th in 2018. So 1 - year where he improved his defense after which he bailed the program because he didn't like recruiting. That still does not bode well when at LSU he is showing a return to his previous trend.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:05 pm to Geauxgurt
BK is lazy. He’s 61, and doesn’t care about his hires. His recruiting sucks, his players currently suck, he’s full of excuses. Garbage
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:06 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
House Year 2 (2018) - 85th /130
This is wrong. Like super duper wrong.
Should be 6th/130 (16.8 PPG)
I was curious to see what the actual PPG allowed was and did some quick checking.
Previous year they were at 74th (28.2 ppg), so it looks like he improved them a good bit year over year.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:08 pm to TrueTiger07
quote:
He was always a lazy hire.
Pull up his hire thread on here. I bet you people were drooling
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:08 pm to mwade91383
quote:
2019 went to KC and won the super as a LB coach FTR.
And it was known he bolted because he didn't like the schedule in college football, thus his return to the NFL. It was specifically with recruiting and how much effort/time it took.
quote:
The OP is just cherry picking stats and doing the revionist history shtick to justify wanting him gone.
I’m not saying he necessarily needs to be retained, but his resume at other places isn’t why.
Stop the nonsense.
The stat for 2018 was flipped, and I corrected it. Still shows the only time he was very successful at all was under a defensive guru at head coach.
In the end, he did not earn the LSU job based on his previous DC skills being consistently good. It was on 1 year after which he quit coaching college all together.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:18 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
quote:
He’s 61, and doesn’t care about his hires.
I love how people say this like it's a fact.
Do you really think he doesn't care about his hires...like he doesn't want to win.
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