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The most mind numbing sequence Saturday

Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
14015 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:45 pm
FWIW, denbrock called a great game for the most part. But one play made no sense.

3rd and 5 from the ole miss 48 with 3 minutes and some change to go. Denbrock calls a QB rollout, immediately eliminating half of the field for the offense to work with. Basically taking away any chance JD might have to make a play if the play to nabers isn’t there (was clear PI on ole miss, but that’s beside the point).

And then this idiot BK allows his offense to punt the ball away to an offense who hadn’t been stopped all game.

How in the frick do you trust your defense to get the ball back there after watching that game?

fricking mind blowing and I can’t stop thinking about it
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4768 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:48 pm to
Punt goes either way.. it’s 4 and 8 on their side of the 50. We are up 2 points and we’ve stopped them somehow twice in the 4th. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. We had too many chances to ice that game up. As a team, couldn’t find a way.

I’m more pissed that you lose after scoring 49 on the road.
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3956 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:50 pm to
BK was once a DB coach. You are correct. Makes zero sense.
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
14015 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Punt goes either way.. it’s 4 and 8 on their side of the 50. We are up 2 points and we’ve stopped them somehow twice in the 4th.


Idk man, everybody and their dog knew what was going to happen when we punted that ball away
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170583 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:51 pm to
I didn't like that call either. Would have been better off running a draw there and playing 4 down territory. Defense wasn't stopping them regardless of field position. If anything a shorter field gives us more time on the back end.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4768 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:53 pm to
I’m with you, but it goes either way. Like you said before, cutting the field in half on third down was not the best play. I’m guessing they thought ole miss was just gunna bring everybody.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16176 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

it’s 4 and 8


Thing is, it was 3rd and 5 before that. Run it twice or even do the little inverted triple option.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4768 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:57 pm to
Yeah, wasn’t a huge fan of the call either. Once you got to 4th and 8, put yourself in a shite position. Otherwise, they called a great game. shite sucks, I’m not ready to roll over yet. Still a lot of season left. Hopefully, they will learn and get better
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18986 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:00 pm to
I agree, because if we don't convert the 4th down, we give them a shorter field and get the ball back with more time on the clock to win the game.

If we convert, game is probably over and we win.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42360 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:00 pm to
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I can’t stop thinking about it


Or posting about it. This has to be at least the third time I've seen you post this.

The punt was the right call analytically after the 3rd down conversion failure.

The case to be made is deciding it is 4 down territory before third down. Then they could have opened up the playbook a little there, being willing to check down for less than a first down or run the ball to set up a 4th and short if they didn't make it.
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
14015 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Or posting about it. This has to be at least the third time I've seen you post this.


I posted this once right after the game. Thanks for noticing.


quote:

The punt was the right call analytically after the 3rd down conversion failure.


analytically my arse, punting there was conceding the game.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42360 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:16 pm to
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analytically my arse, punting there was conceding the game.



I'm just telling you what the analytics are. 4th and 7 or 8 is not the time to decide it is 4 down territory when you have the lead. It just isn't. LSU had stopped Ole Miss just two series before, turnover on downs.


quote:

I posted this once right after the game. Thanks for noticing.


It's the SpongeBob avatar I swore I saw it twice in a response before this thread, my apologies
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2266 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:25 pm to
I didn’t like the play call but Nabers was open and JD for some reason didn’t throw him the ball despite looking that way
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15029 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Nabers was open


And then was tackled
Posted by McMahonnequin
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2022
537 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:36 pm to
Not to mention that it was also a terrible fricking punt from Bramblett. Pretty sure it netted like 20 yards
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
19648 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:47 pm to
Yep. I’m tired of all this sky screaming on here but that was a piss poor call.

You CAN’T put your defense back on the field without an effort to run out the clock and/or score again. Diggs or Jackson up the middle on third and five and pick up 2-3 yards or more. Play it safe because you ARE going for it on fourth down. You miss it and they get the ball at midfield, what the frick does that matter? They’ll just score quicker.

But no way in frick do you purposely put that piss arse defense back on the field expecting a stop when just a FG wins for them. I typed “game over” when the punt team came on. And I’ll be damned if Jayden and the offense wouldn’t have pulled it out except for the Hilton drop. But that’s another story.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 6:49 pm
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1358 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 7:20 pm to
Yes, I thought the same thing, it's 3rd and five, you have a QB that's a tremendous running threat. Why roll him to the sideline and cut the field in half, makes him much easier to defend. You either run the ball right at them and set up a 4th and two, or dropback with receivers on both sides of the field as options. If they are covered you let Daniels run as the DBs are spread out and that's where he is best
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22172 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 7:30 pm to
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3rd and 5 from the ole miss 48 with 3 minutes and some change to go. Denbrock calls a QB rollout,


Ease your pain because the call was a good one but one problem... the QB held the ball. I call this image "Throw the damn ball I."





This is "Throw the damn ball II." Notice Nabors getting plowed by the DB. QB was under no duress in either pic...




FWIW, this is essentially the same play he threw against Bama for the win.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36989 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Not to mention that it was also a terrible fricking punt from Bramblett. Pretty sure it netted like 20 yards
Yeah, but Ole Miss got hit with a questionable hold so had to start from their 12. The amazing thing is that with about 2:30 left Ole Miss proceeded to run 5 running plays in a row to start the series.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36989 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

I call this image "Throw the damn ball I."
Holy cow.
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