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Washington state moves to remove community notification, restrictions for sex offenders

Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:44 am
what could possibly go wrong

Washington state moves to remove community notification, restrictions for sex offenders


"...(if) they can start to roll it back here, they can start to roll it back everywhere else."

The Post Millennial has learned that Washington’s Sex Offender Policy Board is working with the state’s Sentencing Guideline Commission in an attempt to roll back restrictions and sentence guidelines for sex offenders, claiming “these laws actually undermine public safety, the exact opposite of what lawmakers and the public so confidently assume they accomplish.”

This is on the heels of community blowback from Washington Democrats including Governor Jay Inslee and Attorney General Bob Ferguson, releasing level 3 sex offenders, those deemed the “worst of the worst” and most likely to re-offend from high-security facilities to halfway houses in unsuspecting neighborhoods.

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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127881 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:45 am to
It is amazing how far we have slipped as a nation.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26926 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:46 am to
"Stop calling us groomers and anti-woman!"
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112468 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:46 am to
Yeah
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17659 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:48 am to
They release creatures and want our guns.

I guess it gets a little easier to take a leak behind a tree next to a freeway without getting labeled.
Posted by GBPackTigers
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
1523 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:51 am to
Why would you do this if you weren’t intentionally trying to destroy this nation?

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:54 am to
They are helping out their constituents.

L3 sex offenders are likely heavy Dem voters, if not Dem politicians or major donors.
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2669 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 9:56 am to
Sexual attraction is a hell of thing. I seriously doubt these offenders are reformed. Unless they have some divine intervention, that attraction will always be there and most will give in to the desire at some point and hurt another victim.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Washington’s Sex Offender Policy Board is working with the state’s Sentencing Guideline Commission in an attempt to roll back restrictions and sentence guidelines for sex offenders, claiming “these laws actually undermine public safety, the exact opposite of what lawmakers and the public so confidently assume they accomplish.”
Is a Registry an end-unto-itself, or is it a tool for reducing recidivism?

Sex Offender Registries basically did not exist 30 years ago. We now have three decades of data to evaluate whether they are effective or instead counterproductive (as Washington seems to think).

If you see a Registry in a vacuum as simply additional punishment, that is not entirely unreasonable. But if your goal is to see less sexual assault, is it not reasonable to conduct that evaluation and to act accordingly -- whether by increasing or scaling-back registries, depending upon what is dictated by the data?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:33 am to
You seem to have a real interest in this subject.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:36 am to
quote:

You seem to have a real interest in this subject.
Indeed, I would very much like to see reduced rates of sexual assault. An objective analysis of the data on Registries seems a reasonable approach.

Do you see the matter otherwise?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Do you see the matter otherwise?


No it's just that some people see these posts and have a Pavlovian response in their need to take the wrong side in these matters and argue on and on, don't you agree?
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

quote:

Do you see the matter otherwise?
No it's just that some people see these posts and have a Pavlovian response in their need to take the wrong side in these matters and argue on and on, don't you agree?
That certainly happens sometime.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33958 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:44 am to

The whole concept was laughable from its inception. These people should obviously not be on the streets at all. They admit that by even having the registry.

They don't make murderers enter a registry.

Sex offenders have the highest recidivism rate of any crime (and I'm not talking about the drunk who gets caught taking a piss in public, or the dude with a 16-year-old girlfriend)

There are certain offenders that should never walk the earth as a free men. Yet, they slap them in a register and set them out into the world.

Yes, get rid of the registry, but leave them in prison for life.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16396 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Sex offenders have the highest recidivism rate of any crime
the honorable Governor Inslee says the exact opposite is true.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:49 am to
He also claims that he had a great response to Covid. Nursing homes in his state beg the differ.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75164 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:49 am to
It all comes back to their wanting to have sex with kids.

They're openly telling us who they are. We must believe them.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:49 am to
quote:

That certainly happens sometime.


Agreed!

There are actually some sick, deranged individuals who have such a compulsion to defend grooming, pedophilia and sexual deviancy that they would go so far as to create an alter on a message board to do that very thing!

It's a mental illness I would assume.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33958 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:49 am to
quote:

the honorable Governor Inslee says the exact opposite is true.


He probably includes a bunch of bullshite "date rapes" and public urination cases in his stats.

Pure sexual deviants can't stop, even with the threat of castration.

Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 10:51 am to
quote:

get rid of the registry, but leave them in prison for life.
Pragmatic, but unconstitutional, per SCOTUS in Ewing v. California.

When a state is constrained by a ruling like Ewing, it must look elsewhere to try and prevent recidivism. Are Registries the answer or permanent and strict post-release supervision or group homes or ankle monitors or something else? I don't know. Maybe the 50 Laboratories will eventually be able to answer the question for us.
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