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re: Terry Bussey

Posted on 9/29/23 at 12:00 am to
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8096 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 12:00 am to
All that sounds like how college sports should be operated to you?

It has turned into the NFL or any professional league. It’s all about money, which is ruining all the things that made college football great. NIL was not intended to be done the way these donors are doing with these kids.

There are no selling points anymore to elite recruits anymore other than we will offer you this much money. Then mom and dad will decide where said recruit will go, which will most definitely be whoever offer the most money.

Yea this makes college football so much better. Get the fuk outta here with that stupid comment.

Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8096 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 12:13 am to
Yes it will. Give them another class or two with elite talent like they’ve been buying and A&M will start winning with talent alone, in spite of their coach.

Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10449 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:53 am to
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Capitalism baby!!!! Love it!!!!


You keep saying this, but you are wrong. It's the wild west. There are fairness and anti monopoly rules in play in Capitalist economies.
Posted by Texaswill
North Carolina
Member since Jul 2008
611 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 5:38 am to
It has always been that way. It was just under the table.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10654 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:48 am to
The under the table stuff was never even close to what it is now and payments pre NIL were for far less money. If someone doesn't regulate booster involvement with NIL, college athletics will be gone in the next 5-10 years and fans will simply lose interest in the product at all.
Posted by Carbonman
Butte la Rose
Member since May 2022
701 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:29 am to
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No it’s money. They are simply outbidding us. Period


Kelly has to confront this or a catastrophe in recruiting will occur.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by Carbonman
Butte la Rose
Member since May 2022
701 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:33 am to
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Exactly. It doesn’t take a genius to realize this isn’t about losing bussey. It’s overall frustration with the dog shite recruiting effort by this staff and them continually getting their arse kicked all over the trail.


My God get a grip.
Posted by Tigertown2020
Member since Mar 2023
53 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:35 am to
so, let me see if i understand this. BK and other coaches get a $100 million contract with no regulation ant thats not a problem. Conferences are realigning solely for more money and thats not a problem. LSu wants to spend tons of money on a basketball arena and thats not a problem. the only real problem is athletes (the product) are now getting paid. everyone at every level is trying to get as much money as possible starting with university president and conferences alignments. there is monry everywhere and nothing is regulated but lets regulate athletes because those greedy folks want too much.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27454 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:49 am to
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It has always been that way. It was just under the table.


Not even comparable to what is happening now.
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
1180 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:58 am to
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Capitalism baby!!!! Love it!!!!


LOL yeah man I just root for players to get the most money! That's my passion. I don't even watch games I just scour news about NIL deals and cheer like my team just scored a TD when I learn about a new one!
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:48 am to
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LOL yeah man I just root for players to get the most money! That's my passion. I don't even watch games I just scour news about NIL deals and cheer like my team just scored a TD when I learn about a new one!



Irrelevant. There is zero rational reason that these players should not be allowed to make money off their Name, Image, and Likeness just as you should be able to do the same IF you were talented enough in something to get that kind of pay. Your ONLY reason for not loving it is that YOUR team isn’t the “top dog” in it and is suffering because of it.

If you want to limit NIL what you are essentially saying is that all actors/musicians/writers/etc should ALL take the lowest amount of money anyone who wants to book them is able to pay for every job/appearance they are booked to go to because you believe everyone deserves equal access to these people.

Or an even better example of what you want is let’s say you are an engineer and company A isn’t wealthy enough to afford to pay you more than 65k a year but they really really want you. Company B is able to pay you 95k a year but BECAUSE company A can only pay you 65k a year, company B isn’t allowed to offer you more than 65k a year. That’s what you are advocating for and that is an unamerican as it gets.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10654 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:53 am to
So if that's what you believe, why does the NFL have a salary cap? The most popular league in the country knows it's not good for the sport if 5 or 6 teams just buy all of the best players. Most believe these kids should be compensated once they are on campus through NIL. The pay for play out of high school disguised as NIL is not sustainable for the sport.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31234 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:59 am to
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Was always considered going to A&M. He’s from East Texas but this board will melt down about it


Seems to be getting worse and worse all over TD. I can't prove it exactly but I feel like many of the guys saying BK can't recruit and making snide remarks about 3 stars are the same guys who made snide comments about other coaches being "star gazers".

It's like some folks can't operate without being miserable and trying to bring everyone down with them.

Thanks for all your efforts here, Captain.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 11:13 am to
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So if that's what you believe, why does the NFL have a salary cap?



They chose to do that as a conglomerate organization and the teams agreed to it and the union member players agreed. Good luck getting teams in college to agree to that and even more luck to you getting 18 year old kids to come together and agree on that. (I don’t have an issue if that was the case for college as well BTW but to demand it as a fan is wrong. You don’t get a say so in that.)

Capping salaries absolutely goes against the entire principles of capitalism though. What other jobs in the private sector has salary caps forced upon its workers. Name one other industry where another employer isn’t allowed to pay you more money for your services. You wouldn’t like that being a rule for your job now would you? Why would you be in favor of it for someone else? (And technically the salary cap in the nfl isn’t a true salary cap either as you could go to another football organization like the Canada league and the NFL set salary cap does not apply. Of course the Canada league can’t afford what the nfl can so essentially it would be like capping the the NFL to what the Canada league could afford to pay players since there isn’t a better option for aspiring pro football players to go to than the current college system. That’s an issue with monopolization though)

(To be honest though, I’m only pointing this out because this actually DOES point out a real flaw with our unregulated capitalistic system. It does hinder diversification in cases like this because it’s a system set up where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It can not help but to eventually fail because wealth becomes useless past a certain point as at a certain point you can no longer physically spend it and money just becomes hoarded by a select few. Money is meant to be spent not hoarded. If all the money ends up in the hands of a select few, money becomes a useless commodity to the vast majority of people because they can no longer get their hands on enough of it for it to matter. At that point the monetary system collapses and those without it would form their own new system of currency, most likely starting with bartering.)
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 11:22 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10654 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 11:21 am to
I think we're in agreement here. The players should not be capped on earning potential through NIL the way it was intended once it was made legal. There's so much money in college football and the players absolutely deserve a piece of the pie. If a car dealership wants to pay a player 2 million dollars to advertise and promote their dealership, I have no problem with that. That's capitalism and your worth is whatever someone is willing to pay you. My problem lies with schools paying kids 6 and 7 figures to sign with them before they even get to college. And yes, I'm fully aware players were being paid before this, but it's the wild west now and that aspect is not at all healthy or sustainable for the sport. I believe the only way to stop it is to make players employees and everyone agree to terms through a CBA.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 11:23 am
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