re: Rahim Alem and Tremaine Johnson

i've been out of the thread. whats the adoption shite about?

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i say suspend them for the bowl game

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...and if you made these bold disciplinary actions because of a pair of 15 yard penalties at critical points in a football game, you'd be:

Bereft of a team willing to take the field for you in the Bowl game.

Nothing. They've been punished enough....

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And can we all stop with the "Mother who adopted the FB players" card. Adopting a football player has NOTHING to do with disciplining (tough love) kids who screw up. Any parent with a brain knows that, whether a kid is adopted or not. So cut the crap soccer mom (tigerinexile)and let us critique stupid management decisions. And yes- lets get a DC who will kick their asses off the field when they pull stunts like that.

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Got your jockeys [or briefs, as the case may be] in a wad. You ignorance knows no bounds, dimwit, one of my adopted children IS a football player. Do you have to buy stupid to be this ignorant, or does it just come naturally?

For mercy's sake, flyweight, don't whine so, it's unbecoming, virtually speaking.

Furthermore, I don't have to stop with a damn thing, Mr. Presumptuous, so long as I don't violate TD's posting guidelines. So man up, or whine on, the choice is yours.

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My problem IS with the coaches for not employing the saban-like tough love.

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The kind of "tough love" he showed the country on national TV when his senior QB picked up of those boneheaded, utterly dumb 15 yard penalties in a tight game against LSU?

Which "saban-like tough love" was, of course, to do absolutely nothing except to send Mr. JPW back on the field to finish the game.

Shoe on the other foot doesn't wear so well, does it? I really am just about to

I gave alem points for being the only dl who consistently came to play all season

tremaine has sucked all year and then pulled that shite.

I wouldn't object to both being sat down

I keep repeating:

Handle it at practice. In two weeks.

i think we can all agree that not all 15 yd personal foul penalties are created equal.

there's absolutely critical penalties that we all see turn a game -- the roughing the QB penalties against UK and 'Bama in 2007 and Johnson's penalty Friday.

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That said, come here, dipshiite, I wanna poke you in the eye and if you react or respond in any way beyond calmly returning to a neutral corner (or your huddle, as the case may be), it's gonna cost you next month's paycheck ... and all your co-workers (or employees, as the case may be) paychecks, too.

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that's the point. johnson lost his cool and didn't understand the ramifications of his actions. it was all about reacting without thinking. i know it's hard not to react to a personal attack, but you've got to keep your head.

we're not talking about me sitting at my desk and some random dude walks into my office and pokes me in the eye. we're talking about a situation where you've got to KNOW someone is going to try and provoke you, and the consequences if you're caught responding are dire for your entire team.

it's a case study in the lack of self control the team has shown all year. granted there's some mitigating circumstances here, but you've got to rise above that.

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i think we can all agree that not all 15 yd personal foul penalties are created equal.

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Sometimes it just happens in a boneheaded, thoughtless moment, even at the Pro level where they get paid a helluva lot of $$$ and it's a business.

In these two cases, especially after Johnson was deliberately poked in the eye, it cost LSU big time. As much as we all groaned when those penalties occurred, today no one is more aware of the consequences of those two actions than those two young men, especially Johnson.

These are 18-22 year old young men. 18-22 year olds make dumb, spur of the moment decisions, they sometimes react to circumstances in the moment. These are the times painful lessons are learned.

Of course no one ripping these two young men for boneheaded, stupidity ever did a single thing in their teens and early twenties that carried consequences for others, as well as themselves.

It's one thing to be mega-disappointed at how LSU's regular season went and especially how it ended Friday, but it's another to make presumptions about how CLM and his staff handle disciplining players when we're not on the team, at practice or in the locker room. There is information we just aren't privy to and things are not always what they seem on the sideline.