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What Exactly is Trump's Policy/Plan on Israel & Palestine?

Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by Shakey
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:13 am
I watched his recent CNN interview where he claims he will solve the Israel/Palestinian crisis by "bringing both sides together and reaching a deal, bringing peace to the region for the first time in over 50 years."

Any idea the specifics of this policy? Who will he have advising him in this area?
Posted by MasterDigger
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Shakey
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:26 am to
Why does Israel have to accept giving up their sovereignty to accommodate Palestine within their own borders?
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:55 am to
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Why does Israel have to accept giving up their sovereignty to accommodate Palestine within their own borders?
When were the current borders defined?

Who was at the table to define them?

Has it been an issue since and is it an area of importance to more than one cultural people?

Is it worth trying to define the borders in an effort to make everyone Mostly ok with distribution of the population in the same geopolitical region?


Posted by Shakey
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:01 am to
Palestinians don't value western principles of basic respect for different viewpoints. They adhere to a an archaic religion that, at its core, insists they must covert Israelis to their religion. If the Israelis refuse, their religion says they must be killed.

I have watched this crisis unfold for the past 40 years. Palestinians don't want to assimilate to the modern world. They want to have their cake and to eat it, too.

Israel is surrounded by countries that would push a button and exterminate them if they could. We have a duty to support their democracy and respect for our values.

Palestinians have shown time and time again they are not willing to compromise.
Posted by qwerpoiu
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:03 am to
You should look into the history of the formation of the state of Israel. There is so much irony in “giving up their sovereignty to accommodate .” I chuckled a little.


This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by qwerpoiu
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Shakey
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:10 am to
So where does it end? Israel didn't have recognized "rights" to the land before 1947, but how far back to we go? Since then, they have fought for it several times and prevailed.

Israel founded a modern democracy that values human rights and western principles that have made it a beacon of progress in a region of the world that doesn't even give women basic rights.

Yes, I am an ardent supporter of any society that supports these same values.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:14 pm to
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Palestinians have shown time and time again they are not willing to compromise.


I actually think the west is a lot of the problem. The UN, the EU (and the American left) need their little grievance project in the West Bank and Gaza. Their refusal to meaningfully back sanctions on Iran keeps Hamas in business, and enables the Palestinian victim culture.
Posted by ruffleforeskin
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:22 pm to
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Shakey

I suggest you take a trip to Israel and Palestine. You'll have a completely different view point after.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:24 pm to
He’s an Israel first guy
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:25 pm to
He sucks their dick, I like Trump but I don’t like his Israel policies, he’s not a god.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:30 pm to
Israel and Ukraine are not our problems to fix. Trump is getting elected to fix the US.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:34 pm to
who cares. neither side will agree to anything. just keep the status quo
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:38 pm to
I think it was a unilaterally imposed two state solution without the Palestinians input. And by giving Jerusalem to Israel, he takes that disagreement off the table.

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Israel founded a modern democracy that values human rights and western principles that have made it a beacon of progress in a region of the world that doesn't even give women basic rights.


Israel isn’t Western. It’s a Jewish ethnic state, that actively persecutes the Christian (and Muslim) minority that lives within its borders.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10403 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:58 pm to
LOL, yes, this is why there are non-Jews in the Knesset.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:04 pm to
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What Exactly is Trump's Policy/Plan on Israel & Palestine?

Who cares? For the last 70 yrs, the Jew's have kicked Arab asses all over the desert. Let them figure it out.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:06 pm to
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Who will he have advising him in this area?







Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Let them figure it out.



I agree. Yet is it too much to ask that U.S. taxpayers aren’t expected to subsidize Israel’s existence into perpetuity?

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