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re: In case you missed it (like I did), archaeologists discovered ancient city of Sodom
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:07 am to Zach
Posted on 9/7/23 at 11:07 am to Zach
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History of religion is fascinating. Best thing I found was the real name of Jesus. It was Jacob.
Jesus is the Hellenized name of Joshua
James is the Hellenized name of Jacob
Mary is the Hellenized name of Miriam
Simon Barjona is the Hellenized name of Shimon son of Jonah
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:23 pm to theunknownknight
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Jesus is the Hellenized name of Joshua
Winner!
Check out KJV:
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4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Then NAS:
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8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.
The new testament was written in Greek. The OT was written in Hebrew, but a translation of it was written in Greek, called the Septuagint, 3BC or so. The Greek word for Joshua is the same Greek word the KJV translators translated into Jesus. They did it that way for every case, including verse 8, which shows how stupid they were. But further, Rome's influence and Latin with the name. In Latin, 'Jesus's' name is Iesus. But Guess what? Latin doesn't have a J in the alphabet.
In English:
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John Wycliffe (1380s) used the spelling Ihesus and also used Ihesu ('J' was then a swash glyph variant of 'I', not considered to be a separate letter until the 1629 Cambridge 1st Revision King James Bible where "Jesus" first appeared) in oblique cases, and also in the accusative, and sometimes, apparently without ...
We went from Hebrew, to Greek, to Latin, to English to get Jesus. So, what's the only name in which we may be saved? It ain't Jesus. I'd vote for Joshua.
And if you're amazed how the translators could have gotten the most important name in the NT wrong, there's a whole lot out there to be amazed about too.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:38 pm to theunknownknight
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Jesus is the Hellenized name of Joshua James is the Hellenized name of Jacob
That's besides the point. This was not a new interpretation of what names meant or how they were spelled. It was using modern equipment that found a mistake.
The best way to describe it is through an analogy:
Let's say in 100 AD they find a carving with what looks like 'X.'
So, they keep copying the name with an 'X' for 1,000+ years.
Then someone in 2020 uses a super optic ray gun and says:
"Hey, it's actually 'M' not 'X'."
"What????"
"Come look!"
"Well, shite."
But I'm not on a mission to change the name of Jesus. I was just pointing out why I think the history of religion is actually more interesting than religious doctrine.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:53 am to theunknownknight
quote:"Yehoshua" was an earlier Hebrew version of the later Aramaic names "Yeshua" and "Joshua"
Jesus is the Hellenized name of Joshua
James is the Hellenized name of Jacob
Mary is the Hellenized name of Miriam
Simon Barjona is the Hellenized name of Shimon son of Jonah
and Barabbas was Yeshua bar Abbas (Yeshua, son or Abbas) in many Greek transcripts.
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