It's no secret that most women support abortion in some form or fashion. For liberal women it is truly a religious sacrament to them, a core of the liberal beliefs. I would say most middle of the road women believe there should be access to abortion in some form or fashion. Even some Conservative women would break with Republicans on the abortion and support abortion in some form or fashion.

Let's be honest, it's not that many Republicans really care that much about the abortion issue. It's that they feel like they have to be this way on the abortion issue to ensure the Evangelical Christian vote they've relied on for decades. They feel like if they aren't this way on the abortion issue the Evangelical Christian vote stays home. Disregard the fact that Evangelical Christianity has been on the decline for awhile here in the U.S. along with all organized religion.

Not saying I like that or that I think that's a good thing but it's reality. I think the lack of religion causes loss of community and is a big reason why you are seeing skyrocketing rates of isolation, depression and other mental health issues. But even for those who are under 40 and religious (like myself), abortion isn't the issue it is for older religious Americans. My abortion position has always been to allow abortion in the first trimester (12 weeks/3 months) with abortion being illegal after that except for rape, incest and health of the mother. I think that would get support for most Americans including most religious Americans. Americans by and large don't want either extreme. They don't want abortion completely banned but they don't want abortion up until birth either.

I personally don't agree with abortion except in extreme circumstances and think the solution is simple. Stop having one night stands with every man or woman you're attracted to. Be much more careful about who you have sex with and use protection. I don't think it's as hard as we make it and doing those three things would cause unwanted pregnancies to drop dramatically. But it also means people (both men and women) taking personal responsibilities and our current society believes in not taking responsibility for any of their actions.

I also think if you really want to see men really get on the pro-abortion side you allow an 8 week financial abortion. One of the arguments for abortion is that a woman might not be ready to be a mother and having a kid would harm/destroy their life as they know it. You can make the same argument for men. Condoms do break/fail and many of those times a man might not be ready to be a father and having a kid would harm/destroy their life as they know it. Yet women up until now have had the ability to decide they aren't ready to be a mother. Men have had no similar ability to decide they aren't ready to be a father.

I don't feel sorry for the guy who doesn't use a condom but both sides should be able to get out of it. There is a part of me that says if a man has to have their life ruined by an unexpected pregnancy after using protection that a woman should also have to suffer the same fate.

I know that might sound cold but it's really about equality. I would be on the front lines side by side with women fighting abortion bans if the men were also given protections. Heck if a Democrat offered protections for men and would fight for men half as much as they do for women when it comes to abortion/financial abortion rights I'd probably vote for that Democrat. As long as men aren't given protections though, while I disagree with full abortion bans, I'm not going to particularly fight it, I won't be on the front lines side by side with women and I definitely will not vote for a Democrat.

It's always ironic when women mention things like sex strikes. I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried that with the abortion issue. Ironically though it's men who should probably be doing the sex strike. It's long since time that a broken condom doesn't ruin the life of the man or woman involved.

The longer the abortion ban goes on though do men and women drift further and further apart? We are already seeing plummeting birth rates. Many militant women won't want to have sex and more and more men and women will simply be afraid to have sex.

Could men and women in American drift apart so much that we become like Japan where a huge amount of their young population simply don't have sex?

This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 10:08 am